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Luxury vs. Necessity
  • Smart phones, yoga classes and cable: how do you decide what’s a need and what’s a want? What have you cut out of your life that you used to think was a necessity?
  • I'm still figuring out exactly what is a need and a want takes a bit more time. When you grow accustomed to having anything and everything you stop appreciating the great things you have in your life. I like to look at everything in a self improvement way, will this smart phone, cable connection make life better long term? Or is the feeling temporary? So I consider yoga or fitness a necessity but you don't need a studio in order to achieve this. If you're on a tight budget go for a walk outside, or create your own fitness circuit within a park. Its that simple.
  • cell phones seem to be one of those things that nobody had 15 years ago but now no one can live without. Despite all our friends and everyone in my family having smartphones we have resisted the urge to upgrade. We have basic cell phones packages, with no texting or web on them. This saves us about $900 a year every year we don't upgrade and we doing fine without the extras.
  • We got rid of our 2nd car last year. It was a surprisingly painless change, but we no longer had to pay insurance on it, AND we now rent out our underground parking spot in our building. We have yet to run into a problem with just one car!
  • Most people I know consider a smartphone to be an unnecessary luxury item, but I consider my smartphone to be the most necessary and pertinent purchase I made last year. I'm an iPhone user so I have a ton of apps that help me save money and track my spending. I can use my DocsToGo app to log my purchases straight into an organized and color-coded excel spreadsheet instead of carrying around a small notepad that I'll never be able to make sense of later (and forget half of the time.) I use my ScoutMob app to find restaurants offering 50% off for lunch and dinner dates. The GasBuddy app lets me view gas prices nearby so I know I'm getting the lowest price (Red Laser does the same, but for everything.) The NikeTrainingClub app gives me a butt-kicking work out every time so I can pair that with the LoseIt! app, which helps track your diet, to cut the cost of a personal trainer. My SaveCalc app lets me calculate how much I'll have at the end of the year if I put away a certain amount of money each month, and how much I'd miss out on if I didn't... instant motivation. I could go on, but the point is.... Yeah, the thing cost me $200 initially (and another $50 a month for unlimited talk, text, and web on a family plan), but it helps me save at least $150 every month. That makes it a necessity to me.

    The one piece of advice I can give is to really think about the utility of the app. There are so many apps designed specifically to get you to spend money. For instance, the NikeTrainingClub app is unquestionably a tool Nike uses to develop a relationship with the consumer and to showcase its new products. If you can keep focused on your use for the app rather than the company's, the apps can be huge assets. If you find yourself spending more than saving using the app, delete it. I realized that I went to Starbucks more often because I was pre-loading money onto my Starbucks card app ( I got addicted to swiping my phone at the register rather than my debit card.) This was ruining my budget. A week after downloading the app, I deleted it. Problem solved.



  • I agree. I was one of those people who didn't think smart phone's were a useful expense but I'm eating my words after my husband convinced me to get one. I'm in love with my Expense Manager app. It was a free app I found and I track how much I spend and on what constantly. It has a little thing to easily attach pictures to your expense. I usually snap a photo of the receipt to keep it organized and my paper pile down to a minimum since I'm also an avid list maker (the free app, Out Of Milk, really helps with that too). :D Totally recommended if you have a phone that downloads apps.
  • Smart phones: Not a necessity until you have one. I don't have one, I do not miss it. I'm sure if I ever get one, I will never want to live without one - like a dishwasher.

    Yoga (and other fitness): Necessity. I pay ~ $200/mo on health and fitness. This is hefty and I know that I could spend $0 by just going outside; however, I know that I won't do it unless I pay for it ('getting your moneys worth' is a very good motivator). Being healthy now decreases the risk of health problems later, which decreases the amount you'll be spending later on medications, surgeries, physio, etc... (spend it now so you don't have to spend it later). You can also claim these expenses on your taxes.

    Cable: Not a necessity. I love television-watch too much. I know I do not need it and it will be the first thing I get rid of if I ever have to.
  • Smartphones are a luxury. It seems these days no one is without one or a phone of any kind at any time. It seems a person can not just be alone by themselves anymore. Who do people really have to talk with 24 hours a day? You almost never even have to leave your home anymore because your smart phone can just do it all for you. Grocery shopping, banking, couponing, etc. We've got to get back to doing things by ourselves. People can't even use a phone book anymore. Forget about memorizing phone numbers, just push a button. To me my luxury is a remote control for the TV, and a husband who will bring me some chips and a soda.
  • An alternative is what I've done..I have a basic 29.00 phone.with texting.. I bought an iPad.w.3g ..(once you amortize the 1st year of it's cost you start to save) Pay the 15.00 a month 3G (250m) .which I only use when I'm not in a wifi area. And.. is renewable every month..no annual contract.And have all the fun/ help of the apps w/o paying the larger iPhone fees..it's an idea..also by reading books on it.. You save .. Bc ebooks are cheaper than regular books.. And you can now download samples of most books(on amazon) and try them out before you buy them..saves wasted money on books you don't like.. Also there are thousands of classic books for free..
  • I just moved into my first apartment and am truly starting to understand Want vs. Need like I never have before. I'm a list maker kind of person, and felt like I was always in "need" of new clothes for work, furnishings for my new apartment, etc. I started keeping a list on my phone of all the things I think I need. For example, "blue throw blanket" (to match my living room of course). Writing my wants/needs down helps me determine whether or not I truly NEED a new throw blanket or not. I've yet to buy that blanket.. and its also useful as a reward when I've hit certain savings and weight loss goals. When I hit my next saving mark, I just may have to buy a blue blanket!
  • Ah, want and need. The way I determine it is if I will DIE without the item. If I won't, it is a want.

    I had an iPhone. I loved it. I no longer have an iPhone and I am doing okay. Yes, I miss it--but I do not miss the bill (close to $200 for 2 iPhones). I now have a basic talk/text plan that does wonders. I am a student and would love to drop the texting plan but it just isn't ideal. I may and hope to soon but too many people communicate via text. I also dropped our minutes to the lowest possible. Our bill is about $100/month now which is $1200 year savings.

    I really enjoy television. Probably because I am in school and it is my one escape. Unfortunately, when we signed up they did not inform us we are locked into a contract so that can't be changed right now.

    In other areas, I only buy clothes at Goodwill or Ross. I bought 2 awesome business suits at Ross for $20/each. Otherwise, I scour the racks at Goodwill for everything. I truly don't need clothes. I bought a pair of shorts yesterday for $4.50 at Goodwill.

    Trying to save with our car insurance now. Our car is paid off but gas and insurance kills us.

    We always struggling with affording things for our cats. That sounds strange but one has food allergies so food is expensive!
  • I, too, was a devout iphone user until I started with LV. I missed it at first - I was working three jobs at the time and it helped me stay organized. There were several factors that impacted my decision to go back to an "old school" cell phone without internet:

    First, the expense. I found I could save about $40/mo. going to a normal cell phone.
    Second - not being "plugged in" all the time was a huge relief! I can be much more engaged in "real life" without constant access to the cyber world in my pocket.
    Third, I didn't want three jobs - my time itself was a luxury I was not willing to sacrifice.

    Advice for those going ditching the smartphone to go the "old school" route:
    -A planner, the kind you write in, is an amazing and inexpensive tool.
    -Make sure when your cell phone bill will be adjusted - they bill in arrears most of the time.
    -Be firm if you are going into a cell phone store to change your plan. They are usually paid on commission.
    -Make sure your boss/friends/family know you are ditching the smartphone, so it will likely take you longer to return their facebook/email messages. But don't be a flake. Check your email at least twice daily so that you are still "connected" and responsible.

    I also like the idea of an "unplugged" day each week where you don't even check the internet at all. Hugely gratifying and opens you up to the "real life" luxury of spending time with loved ones or peacefully with yourself.
  • Also, as far as the yoga goes, I know a lot of studios in my area, especially the more established ones, accept work exchange in return for yoga classes.

    So you do check-ins for two hours a week in return for a certain number of classes, or help sweep/clean the studio between classes in return for a pass.

    It's worth checking into if you want to stay involved in the fitness community without paying a ton of money.
  • This is always a tricky one... Some things that I consider a necessity would definitely be a want for someone else. I need my chiropractic care and medical massage. Definitely expensive, but after I was injured at work (I am a nurse at a hospital), I woke up some days with incredible back and hip pain and spasms. My chiro and massage therapist are life-savers! They help make my life more tolerable, allow me to be more productive at work, and reduce the amount of days I have to take off because of pain. I do stretch out my appointments because of the expense, but I would never consider eliminating them completely. On the other hand, I don't have Internet, smart phones, cable, don't buy books or movies (love my local library!), and coupon to save on groceries.

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