Real Women Speak Out: How Student Loans Have Affected Me

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You can’t help but notice the dire chatter surrounding student loans these days.

In fact, student loans are one of the hottest topics here at LearnVest, whether in LV Discussions, your comments or stories we write. Some are calling it the newest lending crisis, equal in scope to the subprime mortgages that torpedoed the economy in 2008.

No wonder–a record one in five households now holds student debt. Increasingly, this debt burden is altering lives, and not in the way students imagined when they first took out the loans. Enrollment in graduate programs has dropped, as students face mounting undergraduate loans. 44% of graduates are delaying buying a home, and 23% will delay having children because of their debt burden.

Defaults on student loans are at a record 13.4%, and there’s no clean slate in sight–student loans are rarely dischargeable in bankruptcy.

One NYU professor has even said that student loans are immoral.

This is a topic you’re passionate about. According to a nationwide survey conducted by LearnVest and Chase Blueprint, more than half of you have student loan debt, and you owe an average of $41,000. A quarter of you have more than five loans outstanding, and more than a third of you don’t think your student loans were worth it.

We wanted to show the faces behind these statistics, so we reached out to five LearnVest readers to share their own stories of naiveté, guilt and–in some cases–acceptance and triumph.

Do you recognize your own story in theirs?

Rebecca Harris, law student

Debt: $160,498

I came out of undergrad with almost $40,000 in student loans, and decided to go straight into law school. I wasn’t worried about taking on more debt because law schools all but guarantee that their graduates get jobs. The reality is that those numbers were inflated and manipulated. Students from my school who graduated two years ago are just now starting to get real jobs or picking up temporary work.

I’ve been adding to my loans for three years, and I now have an outstanding balance of $160,498 in federal loans (find out why federal loans are better than private), and I haven’t been able to pay down any while in school. My school requires 25 hours per week in legal clinics in addition to classes, reading and work, so there is little to no time for an extra job.

I feel extremely stressed out and overwhelmed. Recently I’ve been wondering if this is the right career for me after all, after getting a taste through clinic work. I want to find something that doesn’t make me stressed and anxious, and is more fulfilling. I’ve been researching other options, like working in HR or taking a management job that doesn’t require a law degree but would still make use of it.

Tiffany, public sector professional

Debt: $97,000

Even with a half-tuition scholarship, help from my parents and graduating early, I graduated from Boston University with $70,000 in student loan debt, then embarked on a career in the public sector in New York, starting at $30,000.

About two years ago, my boyfriend asked what the pay-off date for my loans was, and I had no idea. I read all the fine print and repayment terms and found I would be paying for nearly 30 years at the rate I was going! It felt like getting hit over the head with a ton of bricks.

I have since calculated my monthly payments so I will be paid off no later than December 2020. I allocate more to the higher-interest loans and take advantage of incentives such as lower interest if you enroll in auto-payment. I have a credit card that sends my cash-back bonuses straight to my private student loans.

“Even paying $100 a month while in school would have saved me $1,200 in accrued interest.”

I am grateful that the loans allowed me to go to the school of my choice. I just wish I understood capitalized interest and the terms of repayment better. I would have made an effort to pay at least something on my loans while in school. Even $100 a month, which would have been feasible with my college job, would have saved me $1,200 in accrued interest.

Now I’m back in school for my master’s in public administration and I’m looking at another $60,000 in debt, but this time with more knowledge. I chose a program that allowed me to continue working full-time and have paid off over $15,000 of my debt while in school. At work, I have been promoted, now earning between $50,000 and $60,000, and will graduate with my master’s in a much better position, both professionally and financially, than if I had attended a full-time program.

Diane Bitler, receptionist

Debt: $80,000

When I took out my student loans, I was young and did not have any clue about money, like the difference between lenders and good versus bad APR. My parents were new to the process as well and had no qualms about taking loans out. I wish my counselors guided me more, but instead I was encouraged to apply to any bank for loans.

I majored in Political Science at SUNY Albany. I chose my major at 17, and by the time I realized it didn’t appeal to me, I was a junior and it was too late to switch majors. Still, I figured I would graduate and find a job in six months (the time before receiving the loan bill). In reality, I graduated, and could only find part-time or extremely low paying jobs, none of which were enough to support myself and pay student loans.

For a long time I felt like a failure because I had no means of paying these loans. I tried the late payment rehabilitation program, but was two payments away when my work hours were cut and I could no longer afford it. My lenders continue to raise my interest and tack on late fees, which now accounts for the majority of my debt. Because my mom co-signed my loans, she’s been getting collection calls and harassment letters about garnishing her wages. Her credit is ruined along with mine.

“I’ve ruined my mom’s credit as well as mine.”

I went to a free financial counseling center in NYC, which helped me figure out how much I owe and to whom, but I am still at a loss as how to deal with these lenders. I’m trying to find a way to consolidate all my loans into just one bill.

I finally left Manhattan and moved to Virginia to find work. Now I earn $10 an hour, roughly $21,000 a year. I feel trapped. I could pay these off if I became a millionaire. Otherwise, I will be paying them until I die. I just wish I could file bankruptcy and start fresh.

I don’t understand how this could be done to the future of America.

Lily Engle, sales professional

Debt: $0

When I graduated in May 2009, I had a solid amount of student loan debt. While I know that $15,000 definitely isn’t that high, it was still a considerable sum to wrap my head around, and it lit a fire under my butt to find a job.

I work in sales, which isn’t my dream job (I had been hoping to find something in development or fundraising for a non-profit), but it has proven to be extremely rewarding and pays twice as much. So my happiness at work is one positive that came out of my student loans.

If I didn’t have these loans, I may have been more frivolous with my spending after college and would not have been able to create an emergency “savings cushion” like I have now. My loans helped me learn to budget and think about money differently. When paying down my debt, I always paid far more than the monthly minimum. As a trade-off, I chose to live somewhere where my rent was lower than the max I could afford. I also planned my budgets and spending around my salary, not my bonuses.

“My loans have helped me learn to budget and think about money differently.”

When I received my end-of-year bonus in March 2012, I used the entire thing to pay off the remaining $8,000. Because I didn’t incorporate my expected bonus into my budget, it wasn’t painful to say goodbye to it. I saved big on interest–I would have ended up paying an additional $800 or so over the life of the loan had I just kept on paying as usual, which would have taken me until 2015.

(Find out why she saved by paying earlier.)

Because of my loans, I can really appreciate the value of my education. Compromising on my education to avoid borrowing may have left me jobless post-graduation and given me no choice but to remain financially dependent upon my family. And being sure to pay my loans each month has given me good credit and solid financial footing as I prepare to take on additional financial responsibilities like homeownership or a family (eventually!).

Virginia Bosch, actor

Debt: $110,000

I was recently asked to fill out a survey from my private university, including the question: “If you could do it all over again, would you choose this school?” I answered, “Yes for the experience, but not for the money.”

I’ve wanted to be an actress since I was a little girl, but I also wanted to go to a school that let me explore other options and grow personally, so I chose to get a BA in the arts instead of going to a conservatory program. My university had the best theater program in the country … and was also named the most expensive college in the state. Originally we had more aid from the school and my parents were planning on paying more upfront. But since the market crashed when I was in college, our situation changed and the amount of aid the school gave me drastically dropped by the time I graduated (this was all told to my parents, not me).  So my parents took out more loans. I graduated in 2009 with $12,000 in federal and private student loans in my name, and over $100,000 in my parents’ names.

My goal is still to be an actress, but I’ve built up a swarm of freelance flexible jobs. I tried a steady administration job, but was miserable. So now I am currently an actor/babysitter/teaching artist/administrative temp/superstar errand-runner. (Find out more ways to make income on the side.) My income ranges between $1,000 to $2,600 a month. I’m back on track to paying my loans, and starting to formulate a financial plan.

When I graduated, the words “consolidation” and “interest rate” were foreign to me, despite the fact that I had borrowed so much money. When applying to college, I would have loved someone to sit me down and explain the ins and outs of loans. $50,000 in debt is very impractical as an actress. At my current rate, I will be able to pay off my portion of loans within the next five years, but I plan on taking on as much of the $100,000 in loans in my parents’ names as possible, even though they say they are willing to pay for my education.

Originally, my loans only produced guilt that I chose an expensive education, guilt that my parents were helping me, and primarily, guilt that I was pursuing my passion when I had this debt. I have been making peace with this, especially since guilt doesn’t pay the loans. And I’m so grateful for my parents’ support.

If You’re in Student Loan Debt or Considering Taking It on:

One good rule of thumb is to never take out more student loans than your anticipated first year’s salary. But we bet, now that you’ve read other women’s stories, you have more questions of your own about how to handle student loans responsibly.

We answer them all in LearnVest’s Knowledge Center. First, understand how student loans work with our complete guide. If you need loans, use our easy checklist to figure out how, and what type, to take out in the first place.

If you’re paying off student loans, use our checklist on how to pay them off, which runs through all the strategies and resources available to you to get a handle on your payments. If you’re struggling, read about your options here.

  • http://twitter.com/CollegeGamePlan Todd Weaver

    That NYU professor who said loans were immoral should go find work elsewhere…. NYU is horrible at helping students meet their financial need!

    People would be less exposed to this type of financial trouble if they were educated on the ramifications of taking on student debt, BEFORE they even start creating a list of schools to consider… when they’re pre-Junior year in high school.

  • http://twitter.com/kgal1298 Kate G

    I ran into problems too post college and I didn’t even get a degree, but I sure got the debt. Thank god I was able to get my career going with out it. Still I think financial planning should be a class in high school. You’d think parents should teach there kids but some parents have no clue…maybe if I would have learned in high school I wouldn’t be spending 7% of my income on paying back loans most of it going towards interest. 

    • Heather

      7%?! I would kill for that! I pay 15% on income based repayment, and it ALL goes to interest – my loan balance actually gets bigger every month! If I were on the 30 year standard plan I would be paying 25%, and the 10 year standard plan would be 50% of my income. I agree with the suggestion to have some sort of counseling in high school. The problem is, until you are out in the real world you can’t grasp how much LIFE costs!

    • Phoebe

      Unfortunately, a lot of parents are just as uninformed as their children. Part of me believed I was being less of a burden by getting loans, but like I said in my own post, I was really unaware of how much I was actually borrowing. If I could do it again, I’d probably have tried for another school (because while I did get a decent education, this school wasn’t worth what they charge). I think that the student loan process should be done in a setting with both parents and students, this way a student may not end up signing off on something that in the end will cost them a lot more than they anticipated.

  • Shazzer4400

    Loans shouldn’t be available to anyone who isn’t majoring in STEM programs. No one else can possibly be able to pay off the debt.

    • Cglas415

      And yet instructorrs and educators are needed to teach students in these subjects. Be careful how you generalize, it makes you look uneducated.

      • Shazzer4400

        But those instructors have to have a degree and experience in STEM fields! So it goes right back to what I just said.

    • jmh1245

      That is a ridiculous assertion.  There are a lot of people that weren’t STEM majors that are able to pay off their loans.  I also know some who were STEM majors that are having trouble finding jobs and paying back loans.  There is a fundamental problem with the system, and you’re talking about one small aspect.

      • Shazzer4400

        Maybe years ago, but not now. Try finding a job with an English or philosophy major in today’s market.

  • http://twitter.com/sp00kerz Shari D

    And this would be why I don’t have a degree… I excelled in high school but could not focus on just one major so why take out thousands of dollars in loans? Maybe one day. 

    • http://twitter.com/latinAbroad A Nomadic Translator

      unfortunately, the reality is that in order to get any decent-paying job in the US, you need at least a bachelors degree… And even so, college credits are having a hard time finding jobs! I bet those without a college education are having an even harder time…

      but I could be wrong, of course

      • http://twitter.com/diamond_marie46 Diamond Richardson

        I also know a lot of friends who have graduated who, once you take our their monthly student loan payments, are making way less than my friends who did not go to school. Not knocking college, I will graduate in May. Just saying that it is not an easy fix. 

      • LeAnne

        You are absolutely wrong.  The reality is that everyone thinks they need a bachelors to get a degree, so they rack up debt and still have to start at the bottom rung when they graduate.

        My husband makes more at his primary job (a retail manager) than I do (a financial analyst with a master’s degree).  He started working for his company making minimum wage at the age of 16.  Through hard work, he has been promoted many times.  By the time he was 24, he was making more than the average American.

        You can make a livable wage without a degree, so why not work first if you can’t afford the education?

  • http://fitorama.wordpress.com/ Lauren Lever

    I think there should be a semester course you have to take (maybe offer it for free) before you get the money. When I went through all the “counseling” to take before I received my loans, as a fairly irresponsible 23 year old it was more like a “yeah yeah, just give me my money” type of situation and really did not take it seriously. There really needs to be more of an educational service by the lenders to let students know how serious these things are.

  • Lori Scheid

    When he lost his job two years ago, we could not pay his student loans. In addition to the interest, we owe more in student loans than we do on our house.  Slowly digging out of it, but it is a huge uphill battle. As everyone else in the world with student loan debt, we would be in such a better place without this financial burdon. It is literally keeping us from pursuing our dreams!

  • http://twitter.com/latinAbroad A Nomadic Translator

    this has me depressed as heck:

    http://www.latinabroad.com/2012/10/24/student-loan-debt-depression-desperation-coping/

    But I decided to take this matter very seriously and will pay off over $50,000 in 3 years. 

    Takes many sacrifices and hard work, but in the end, it will be worth it! Can’t wait to be fully FREE in 2015…

    - Maria Alexandra

  • Kait

    I got into one of the top schools in the country, but at 18 I was too uninformed to realize I didn’t need that education for what I wanted to do. I got a full ride for my freshman year… and then nothing the subsequent 3 years. It’s a great trick for pulling in students. My parents didn’t keep me up-to-date on our financial situation so I graduated during the financial crisis of 2009 with no job and $104,000 in debt (mostly private loans). After 2 years without finding a good, full-time job, I went back to school for occupational therapy. It’s a great field with a good income, but the additional $100,000 in loans is going to make paying all these off impossible. I feel guilty and irresponsible everyday that I picked a career I love because of the debt situation I’m now in. I’m crossing my fingers for income-based repayment and a job that has loan forgiveness after graduation. I wish I had a way to learn all of this at 18 and do it over.

    • Kay

      You might be able to have your loans forgiven by working for a nonprofit (many hospitals are nonprofit) after you graduate. I know this is the case for Physical Therapists, so you might look into it!

  • sigmatheta

    Grad school loans + loans for my kids’ college = 60% of my monthly income = lifelong enslavement.  i’ll be paying these babies until I’m retired.  I assumed they were an investment, but the economy tanked and voila! modern day slavery.

    • LeAnne

       Wow.  What a horrible thing to say.  Just because you made a poor investment doesn’t make you a slave.  You were not forced to take out any loans.

  • Deborah Hawkins

    Hello: I’m a 60 year old women that has been in
    school for three years part time, working on my bachelor degree, just found out
    that I have used up all my loan money going part time, neither my advisor nor
    the financial office never told me this would happen, just by accident I found
    out I’m 2000.00 short for the winter term and need at least 20,000.00 to
    complete my bachelor degree. I never had any schools loans before, so I was not
    aware of this. I’m deep in debt and still have to try to find money to complete
    my bachelor degree in order to move forward to work on my master degree. This
    very sad not knowing which way to turn.

    • LeAnne

       Perhaps you should take the initiative to plot out how much your education will cost you.  No one is going to stop you from spending more than you can afford.

  • CW

    It is suggested in this article that paying while in college would help in the long run. While true, why not just have your disbursement reduced by that much? If you think you can pay $100 a month while in school, reduce your loan by $1,000 each year. Federal and also at least some private lenders allow you to decline any or all of each loan disbursement. If you can afford to make payments on your loans during college, you’re taking out took much.

    • Spmcavoy

       I think it’s about upfront costs vs. earned costs. While I was in school, finding $1000 in a lump sum was difficult and painful, but because I was able to work during my undergrad degree, paying $100/month would have been much easier. I wish I would have paid that while I was in school instead of the $25-40 I put on it a month. It wasn’t required so I didn’t think it mattered…. until I saw that my interest compounded. I’m beating down my 50k with 1/3 of my monthly income.

      I think part of the problem is that they don’t show an estimated payment once graduated. When a person takes out a car loan or mortgage, the lenders usually supply the borrower with an estimated payment, and I think that an estimated payment is a feature that should be provided. It will make borrowers a little more knowledgeable about their decisions. 

    • Untmaggie

      I considered that many times. However, since my work hours weren’t gauranteed AND there was a chance that I’d need to reduce my hours to increase study time. The unknown is why I never did. I’d rather not use it than not take it and end up needing it. I almost always did end up needing it during mid-terms or finals.

  • Psg

    My biggest student loan frustration has been that I successfully found a good job in the field I received my masters in; however, based on the IRS guidelines, I am not eligible to claim my interest on my federal tax returns. I feel the IRS is penalizing me for being successful, while it should be supporting folks like me who are in a position to otherwise contribute significantly to the economy, and could use that tax return to pay down my principle.

    • LeAnne

      Yes, much about the IRS and other government agencies will penalize you for trying to be successful.  Much of this stems from the idea that it’s ok to “take from the rich people because they can afford it”  even though many of these people have huge student loans and have worked tirelessly to get to they point they’re at.

  • Judi

    This is a comment directed at Rebecca Harris the law student. My husband graduated law school three years ago and instead of going the typical corporate route he works at a university in the office of equal opportunity employment and descrimination investigating workplace descrimination. He finds his job very rewarding, and feels like he’s really making a difference in peoples lives. Just another option if you don’t want to go the traditional HR route.

  • guest

    One benefit of student loans for me was that I knew I’d be in debt whether I finished or not, so it motivated me to continue. I became very ill my sophomore year and was forced to withdraw for a semester. Had I not had the motivation of needing a better job to pay off that debt, I might not have had the motivation to continue.

    I graduated at the height of everything in 2009 with a degree that I chose for perceived employability, over what I really wanted to do. It still took nearly 2 years to find full time work. I consolidated and then deferred all of my loan payments until I was working. $65,000 in debt and I ended up taking a job paying $35,000, which is about $5,000-10,000 less than the starting salaries I anticipated by researching the field prior to choosing the major. I could have made more money working my way up into management at the retail job I had through college and up until getting my first “real” job. Also, NO benefits whatsoever.

    I still have hope that as the economy improves, salaries will also improve and better jobs will be open. I have also found out the hard way that employers have consolidated positions and now require further credentials for the jobs that do come available, so I will be entering a master’s program. I still feel like I will be better off. Had I worked my way up in retail, I’d be working weekends and holidays, which isn’t very family-friendly, and should I ever choose to or need to find another job, my skills and experience wouldn’t necessarily apply elsewhere. The only thing I would do differently is pursue my true passion. If I were going to be in debt and take a low-paying job, I’d rather be doing what I love. I’d probably excel more at it anyway.

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  • Phoebe

    I have to say, my story is probably a combination of Tiffany and Diane. Though I have my degree in Accounting, going to school, I was GROSSLY uninformed about student loans. My mother was far more clueless than I was, and after the debacle of my first year of college, I had no desire to even attempt to ask my father for help (though in hindsight, I probably should have).

    I went to a business school which was local and the transfer process from community college to this school was very easy. I was working full time at a wholesale retail store, which wasn’t really much money after the cost of books, gas, insurance and a car loan. I sat skimming documents and basically signed my life away until I had enough money to cover my education. When I finally graduated and the loan books were sent to my house, I thought I was going to cry. I graduated in 2005 and the first job I got out of school didn’t even pay $30k, and I ended up having to stay on at the store part time because the company I was working for had no dental and horrendous medical. I was barely getting by paying my bills and I was living at home! I ended up being very much behind in loan payments, almost lost my car which my mother had co-signed with me, and the stress of not knowing where to turn was really depressing.

    After a year and a half of frustration, I found a much better paying job that almost doubled my salary but I was still far behind in getting myself back on track with my payments and trying to repair my credit. I hadn’t had a credit card since my first year in college so I was really starting from the bottom up. I’m on track now, with a much better income, I’ve been able to set myself up to have my loans paid out automatically from my checking account and just got a notice that my final payment on one of the loans was this month. I still owe just over $16k in loans and, like Tiffany, if I continue at my current salary, I’ll have that loan paid off by 2020 or so. I actually still work at the wholesale store part time, working weekends and 1 or 2 nights a week. A seven day work schedule sucks, but I’m dealing with it as it’s what I have to do.

    If I find a job with a better salary and benefits, I might consider doubling my payments to finish even sooner. (And hopefully be able to leave my p/t job so I can still have SOME kind of social life)

    It’s really too bad that students are not better educated on the COST of getting an education. I’m sure I could have done a better job really searching but it’s hard to do when you’ve got people with friendly smiles handing you a stack of papers and a pen saying ‘just sign here.’

  • mardy

    I plan of taking MS speech language pathology. I have 2 kids,mortgage,car payment,utility bills & few credit card bills. Both me & my husband wok full time but i’m only paying $9/hr. Any advice?