I Was a Mary Kay Salesgirl: How I Barely Broke Even

Cheryl Lock
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Today, LV Moms editor Cheryl Lock shares her personal experience selling Mary Kay, and explains why, in the end, it just wasn’t the money-making scheme she was led to believe it would be.

Virginia Sole-Smith argues in her Harper’s story, “The Pink Pyramid Scheme” that Mary Kay, a nearly 50-year-old institution with a sales force of 2 million women worldwide, is a huge scam.

While I can’t speak for every woman who has ever sold Mary Kay, I can tell you my own personal story about working with the Pink Ladies. (I’m calling them that, though I doubt it’s something a Mary Kay consultant would call herself.)

My experience working for the company was about six years ago. Though some of the details are fuzzy, I remember the overall process like it was yesterday …

I Was in a New City, and I Was Lonely

My story starts back in 2006 when, as a just-out-of-college graduate, I had followed my then-boyfriend to a little town in northern Florida, where he attended graduate school. I had a journalism degree and big plans to move to New York City to become an editor at a magazine … but that would not be possible in St. Augustine.

I was young and in love, though. No one could reason with me.

I settled in decently enough, but St. Augustine never felt like home. I took freelance jobs at the local paper, then full-time ones at newspapers in neighboring cities. Although I appreciated the experience, I worked mainly with older men and found it hard to make good friends.

Something about living in St. Augustine was lonely, and I felt like the life I envisioned for myself right after college might never come true.

How I Met My First Pink Lady

I met my first Mary Kay contact (let’s call her Helen) at a networking event. My first impression was that she seemed great. She was young, beautiful and impeccably dressed. When we first met, she was working as a manager for a spa.

I didn’t know right away that Helen was selling Mary Kay–I actually didn’t know much about her involvement with the company until she had quit her job to sell Mary Kay full time, and I had quit mine.

It started innocently enough. Helen and I became friendly, so it seemed normal that she would reach out to me upon finding out I was leaving my company. I remember the first phone call happened while I was sunbathing at my apartment complex pool. (Florida wasn’t all bad, after all.) It went something like this:

Helen: “It’s a shame you’re leaving the company, but I wanted to tell you that I’ve actually left my job, too, and I’m selling Mary Kay full-time.”

Me: “Mary Kay, is that the make-up?”

Helen: “Yup. It’s so simple to do, and we have a great support team. Our team leader in St. Augustine has made millions. Her husband quit his job, they live in a great house and it’s all because of Mary Kay. Is that something you’d ever be interested in?”

Me: “Sounds fun! Sure, I’d try it out.”

Have I mentioned how naive I was? This is not to say that I don’t think anyone could be successful selling Mary Kay. If you’re a true businesswoman willing to put out the time and money to make it happen, you probably could end up making a lot of money.

That just wasn’t my experience.

That Very First Phone Call …

I knew going in that Helen would be making money off my sales, and that the person above her was making money off of her. But the way I saw it as a 23-year-old was that Helen really believed in me, and she’d be that much more willing to teach me the ropes.

Instead, Helen passed me off to the all-powerful St. Augustine team leader. Let’s call her Marissa. We spent about a half hour on that first call, while Marissa explained to me (again) how fabulous Mary Kay had been for her. She and her husband lived richly, she said.

The husband was able to quit his job and the two of them traveled for Mary Kay all the time. She said she barely had to find new people to sell to because she had such a steady base of customers and such a fabulous team. Not to mention that that company set her up with the elusive pink Cadillac to thank her for her hard work. (According to the Mary Kay site, more than 130,000 sales force members have qualified for use of a “career car,” or elected the cash compensation.)

The Dream They Sold Me On

Mary Kay salespeople are individual sellers who each essentially own their own Mary Kay “business.” I ordered product from a warehouse, and it was up to me entirely to sell that product for a profit, whether by setting up my own website, acting as a Mary Kay representative at parties hosted by individual people or–and this was my least favorite–literally walking up to people to introduce myself and ask if they wanted or needed makeup.

As a MK representative I would be purchasing product at a 50% discount, and then selling it at full price. I was also required to purchase things to start my business off on the right foot, like mirrors and make-up holders for the parties I’d be attending, sample inventory to test out on people at the parties, sample brushes, sponges, mascara applicators and order cards.

It only makes sense to purchase bulk inventory each time you order, since the shipping fee was flat no matter how much you buy, Marissa explained. And when you’re getting started, you should really bulk up, because the last thing you want is to make your customers wait for their products to come in.

So, would I be willing to shell out $350 for my first order?

That might not sound like a lot now, but at the time I was unemployed and had no way of knowing when my next solid paycheck would come in.

I forked over the cash.

Selling Make-Up Was Fun … for a While

I wasn’t thrown directly into the lion’s den–my first step was to attend Mary Kay “classes,” taught by Marissa at a local event space.

I showed up to my first one, bright-eyed and bushy-tailed, with Helen, and we sat in the front row soaking it all in. I was introduced as a new hire, along with a handful of other women who were also newbies. We watched make-up demonstrations, learned about ways to find new customers and, of course, heard more success stories:

The flexible schedules!
It’s not hard to do!
I work from the comfort of my own home!

Armed with tons of inventory, all the supplies I needed to start my sure-to-be-wildly-successful business and my expert knowledge from the classes, I did what every good business owner would do: I started asking all my friends in the area if they’d like to throw a Mary Kay party.

I had only known these people for a handful of months at this point, and they were all, for the most part, grad school classmates of my then-boyfriend. Read: dead broke. “Come on!” I chided. “It’ll just be a fun party! Plus, when you host, I can give you a discount on any stuff you buy for yourself!”

And so the parties went, for a little while. I hosted about 5-10 parties, never making much more than $15-$30 from each. I also held a “flash” sale in honor of Breast Cancer Awareness month, in which I emailed my family and friends to say I would be donating 50% of my proceeds to a breast cancer research fund. In essence, I would be making no profit from a sale. (“What a savvy businesswoman I am!” I thought, when I got a few bites.)

This is the text of an actual email I sent out:

Dear Preferred Customers and Friends,

Exciting news!! I’ll come right to the point. I am in a very special
contest right now, and in order to qualify I must have $1,000 in retail sales in
one day! Sounds like a lot, doesn’t it? Well, I’m hoping this is where we can
help each other …

I was getting desperate. I even manned a booth at a local business fair when Helen dropped out last minute and had already purchased the space. I made business cards, bought ribbon and cellophane wrappers and made up dozens of cute little gift bags containing sample products with my business card.

I handed out about ten of those.

The Beginning of the End

After a few months it was becoming increasingly clear that my days selling Mary Kay were coming to a close. No matter how much a person loves you, none of my friends or family members needed a lifetime supply of microdermabrasion sets. And I was learning that my talent for approaching random people and asking if they’d be interested in make-up was slim to none.

The pros would say I just wasn’t doing it the right way, but selling Mary Kay really wasn’t the career for me.

I slowly started backing away. I stopped trying to have parties, wasn’t attending any more training sessions or picking up the phone when Marissa or Helen called.

Marissa put in a call every week or two in the beginning. I never answered, and her message was always the same: “Come back now and you won’t have to pay a re-activation fee for your account! Mary Kay can really make you a lot of money–call me and we can discuss ways to grow your business!”

According to this site, keeping an “active” account means ordering a minimum order of $200 to start, and continuing to purchase $200 wholesale every three months.

In the end, I roughly broke even when you compare the cash I made with what I spent. I did, however, end up with a ton of leftover makeup. Some I used myself, some I gave away and I ended up throwing out a lot more than I would have liked.

I don’t regret my experience, but I certainly didn’t make any lifelong friends (I haven’t spoken to Helen since I left Mary Kay). I definitely didn’t come away with any extra cash or skills.

On the plus side, to this day I still carry around leftover Mary Kay Oil-Absorbing Beauty Blotter tissues in my purse.

So at least there’s that.

Cheryl Lock is the LV Moms editor at LearnVest. Selling Mary Kay was the final push she needed to break away from her St. Augustine life. A few months after she stopped selling, she moved to New York City and started working in magazines. She’s been living the dream ever since.

  • Sandra Marsh

    You know, I have received many a pitch for a pyramid scheme. Usually they give themselves away in the first five minutes. If I cannot get any specific details about this “company” than I decide right then and there that I am not interested. My heart goes out to Cheryl, but I trust that her failures were not in vain.

  • Mandyleigh129

     I do the sex toy party thing as a way to help pay off my stupid credit card debt. It’s ok and most of the time, things sell themselves – at least in the sex toy industry. If I think a product is weird or that it sucks, I’m honest and I bring a customer to a better product and I find that people appreciate that. I’ve broken even on the start up costs and I’ve been in it for about 3 months only. I’m not particularly proactive because I work a full-time job too…but we’ll see how it pans out. And I don’t think it’s a scam either…except for the cost of shipping.

  • Pdormon

    Yea, Mary Kay is pretty much a scam. Its like being a real estate agent…but only catering to women and older women at that most of the time. They make you do all the hard work and they receive the profits. My mom use to buy products from Avon…In my opinion..its a dying business and only older individuals by their makeup from there. poor quality..

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/CZAZFQBZLLJF7QLASTEBCRABEY Bethany King

    Ha ha! My future director in Mary Kay will be calling her unit, “The Pink Ladies”. :) I love my Mary Kay business and it’s a growin process if you really want to make it work. The majority of people aren’t great salespeople. I’m learning, growing my business and having FUN!

  • sandrafra

    I totally agree. My friend wasn’t my friend for very long when I wasn’t selling well. She and I pretty much had the same circle of friends, so I couldn’t make any new contacts. The fact that you pretty much have to order $500 at a time to make any profit makes it a total crap shoot until you know what your customers will buy. I ended up in the hole. I don’t know why I wanted to try to make money telling women they needed to wear makeup to look professional and put together. I don’t even agree with the philosophy. I’m glad there are people who enjoy it, but they should have a special program for people starting out so that you don’t end up loosing money and getting stuck with product.

  • Sarah

    My mum was a “Tupperware” lady when I was super little. I vaguely recall her taking me along to Tupperware parties, I guess I was a good selling point as she sold a lot of the smaller    items saying that they were good for keeping baby food fresh. I don’t think we made much money from it, but it was something that helped her get out of the house and socialise with others in our apartment complex.

  • NYM

    It doesn’t sound like this was a scam. It sounds like she tried and didn’t do well. And I wouldn’t call it “praying” upon the unemployed. It sounds like someone was offered a choice and chose it. Not to mention she CHOSE to quit her job and that sounds like it was a worse choice than choosing to sell Mary Kay was. Why put down a company that has done so much for so many just because you or someone you know didn’t have the skills, motivation, or dedication to be successful?!

    I went to college with the belief that a degree would help me get a good job and ultimately be able to buy a house and live the American dream. Instead I have student loans that will probably be around longer than I am and a job I don’t love that barely pays the bills. Should everyone stop going to college now? My story is most certainly more common than the lack of success she had with Mary Kay and I don’t see anyone saying “don’t go to college it’s a waste of time and money.”

    And if it was such a scam how did she manage to break even? Scams usually cause you to lose thousands of dollars. Chalk it up to it wasn’t for her and she wasn’t right for the business. If someone started a restaurant that wasn’t successful would they tell everyone not to ever try to own their own business?

    Silliness.

    • Sharon

       This reply is to every who replied negatively to this article. Please always be encouraging. I was also a MK rep. I actually went to Seminar and met Mary Kay Ash.
      It’s not a scam. I was also in Avon (2011). The secret to success is RECRUITING. That is how you make money that will allow you to quit your job. These companies never emphasize that fact. However, that is what they ALL have in common.

      • Lazy Gardens

        ” The secret to success is RECRUITING.”  …. What sane businessperson encourages his/her customers to become competitors?

        And that’s the true sign of an MLM … they encourage strip-mining your relationships by recruiting friends, family and customers to compete with you for customers (and inevitably, recruits).

    • http://www.facebook.com/max.schoenholtz Max Schoenholtz

      *Preying*, miss college grad.

  • Shurley4

    Don’t bash Mary Kay just because you didn’t have the sales skills to sell this product.

  • Allie Hanley

    I have a friend that I worked with at a ladies only health club…. she was the sales manager. She pursued a full time position with MaryKay and within 4 months had her first pink car (she had a red grand am I think)…. and  she never looked back. She had connections, and a strong sales background. Her husband did indeed retire, and she’s made a wonderful living… and has achieved almost every award they give out.

     Mary Kay is not a scam, it’s just a real job that many are un-prepared to do or achieve. You can make extra money, but if you want the whole experience you better be innately an out-going – self starter – who has a make it happen attitude. The company can only do so much for you and those who fail at it… looking for blame – rather than themselves, are looking to place the responsibility on The Mary Kay company rather than themselves.

    As a professional sales person in another industry I can plainly see the failing of those who have a hard time making it… and it’s unfair for people to assign blame to Mary Kay Cosmetics.
    They do provide a lot of training, etc but if you do not have the wherewithall nor innate talent, I suggest proceed with caution. For my friend, the sky was the limit and she’s had 20 years of bliss with them, and does have the millionaire house etc. 

  • Arizk

    In order to be successful in MK you have to go through a lot of numbers, regardless of whether you are selling or recruiting. It is like any business, however the reason people get so emotional is because of how the company “sells the dream”. I was a triple crown winner, – on the write track, fabulous 50′s, deans list. I earned 2 career cars, a court of sharing bee and a court of sales ring. I put my time in and I ended up quitting b/c I didn’t feel right about a lot of things- for example: suggesting that a brand new consultant purchase a $3600 inventory package when I full well knew (based on experience) that this girl didn’t have a shot in hell of building a successful business. the directors would try to sell her on the ways she could build her business when everyone saw the writing on the wall.

    short and simple, ask any consultant or sales director to SHOW YOU their sales for the last 3 months and after you see her results, you can decide if you want to get involved. looking back, it’s amazing how many people believe what directors said and didn’t ask for any proof. anyone can twist the facts to make the story sound the way they want it to. all consultants are told to talk about their director (because the consultant hasn’t achieved anything worthy of talking about) in order to recruit people. when you become a director you are suppose to talk about how great your NSD is b/c you are barely making production and your paycheck is gone b/c of all of the chargebacks – when a consultant returns her product the company takes back the commission you made on her order)

    all in all, you can be successful, you just have to block out the feelings associated with lying to people.

    • LW

      It sounds to me that maybe you had trouble with talking to recruits because you weren’t following the philosophy Mary Kay Ash put in place for the business, The Golden Rule. “Do to others what you’d want them to do to you.” If you are following what Mary Kay herself put into place, there would never be a conflict of conscience. I’m wondering who your director was that encouraged you to do that to people, because I can guarantee, she did not last long in the company working with deception.

    • Amnorwod6

      not every ones director is going broke, and if you have a succesful one you can see what her paycheck was for the month in the applause magazine which is published by the company not the director so it is not as easy to lie about as you suggest!  Peolpe just need to realize that building any business takes A LOT OF HARD WORK! some people are cut out for it and others are not or some times impatient to see fruits of labor. The key would be to purchase your starter kit and make money from holding skin care classes and do not involve your own money. There are women who do not use thier own money to start mk and are successful. i understand we all have our opinions but when we fail at things we should blame others for our own down falls. Mk has nothing more to do with your failures just as not graduating has nothing to do with the schools.
      ! And last but not least someone in almost every business will do somethung unethical or un comfortable at some point and time thats why its called business!

    • Jennifererin27

      I am a new Mary Kay Consultant and have only been in for 2 months now.  I’m very pleased with the progress I’ve made, but I do realize it isn’t easy money.  It’s like any business you have to put time and effort into it to make it what you want.  I decided to sell because it would help us financially just to be bringing in anything additional and to bring great products to women!  Like you said, you left because things didn’t feel right to you…I didn’t invest in a $3600 inventory nor do I plan to anytime soon.  My director says how important cash and carry is and I can’t say I don’t agree to a certain extent but I personally only want to keep items on my shelf that I know won’t sit long.  I’m not going to put money into decorating my shelf with items that won’t sell, so in that essence I’m doing it my way.  I’ve sold $1800 in retail products in 2 months time frame and I’ve not held and inventory at all.  I may have had a couple extra items I put in on wholesale order, but nothing major!

    • Jennifererin27

      I am a new Mary Kay Consultant and have only been in for 2 months now.  I’m very pleased with the progress I’ve made, but I do realize it isn’t easy money.  It’s like any business you have to put time and effort into it to make it what you want.  I decided to sell because it would help us financially just to be bringing in anything additional and to bring great products to women!  Like you said, you left because things didn’t feel right to you…I didn’t invest in a $3600 inventory nor do I plan to anytime soon.  My director says how important cash and carry is and I can’t say I don’t agree to a certain extent but I personally only want to keep items on my shelf that I know won’t sit long.  I’m not going to put money into decorating my shelf with items that won’t sell, so in that essence I’m doing it my way.  I’ve sold $1800 in retail products in 2 months time frame and I’ve not held and inventory at all.  I may have had a couple extra items I put in on wholesale order, but nothing major!

  • Belrod

    It would be great if you would allow a successful Mary Kay Consultant write an article as a rebuttal . . . Cheryl should emphasize ”
    but selling Mary Kay really wasn’t the career for me.” . .  . . I have used Mark Kay products for 30+ years and love them and if I was connected with the company I would be even more offended at the slant this article takes . . . Geeeezzzz!!!!

    • Bobbih

       I think that it was clear that she was not a salesperson.

      • Tashua28

         Calling Mary Kay a “Scam” is not just saying “she wasn’t a good salesperson.”

    • http://www.facebook.com/max.schoenholtz Max Schoenholtz

      #1, why does there even need to be a rebuttal?  You and many other posters are saying she is representing MK/MLM but it is her perspective she’s written about.  #2, she DID emphasize that MK wasn’t for her.  And #3, nowhere did she say MK products are inferior in any way.

  • Carlinef

    I read your article and thanks for sharing your experience w/Mary Kay.  Its a fine and very reputable company. Like all opportunities you have to make it work for you and know what you are going to get out of it. You didn’t really connect with it and so it shows. The Mary Kay model which is taught at MBA Business Schools (I believe Harvard) is pretty interesting. It not only teaches you how to work the business in itself, but how to be better at your job. It teaches you people skills. Its not about selling make-up (they teach how to apply & sell), its about reaching out to others and making them feel warm and having fun. When I do my MK parties & facials, I make it fun for the women. I’m there to pamper them and make them feel wonderful. We need that. There is so much negativity in our life, its good to reach out and be positive. I’m sorry that it wasn’t conveyed to you in that way. You may have seen it as a money making machine. You make money in whatever you do. I like them. You should read autobiography, Miracles Happen…its part of the starter kit… I have read the autobiography and it gives you clear view about what the company and it’s founder is all about… I learned in business school that you always find out about the company you work for or with… Not to find out about how bad the company, but what it is all about… this is something I always practice for any company… Its one of the best companies to work for & work with…they would not be around 50 years if they weren’t & they win a lot of wards in the business & direct selling industry… they do provide a good compensation benefits for teaching and recruiting sales force (which is the management program)… you weren’t in the company long enough to learn everything about it…it doesn’t sound like you went to the company’s events: Career Conference, get big picture & Seminar, get bigger picture… Its a shame you only saw the negative end of it (remember there’s positive & negative in everything)…you weigh them out….You should try it again… every major company has company events or training information-Applause magazine to know more about it…If you try it again, you’ll get a better picture of it…& realize its what you put into it…the more you work at it the better you get at…that’s with any job… you do have to network your business to let others know what you are doing and connect with people…that’s just good business or professionalism…

  • Shawn Western

    With all due respect, your company has many clients who are in the Network Marketing industry, I don’t feel this an appropriate article to write. I have had successes and not so successes in this industry, I have not been hugely successful and know areas I can get better. I do understand where you are coming from, but you have clients that you just alienated and most likely just caused potential mlm distributors to not even try. Shame on you.

  • Luvdawings

    I was a consultant for 7 yrs and my final straw was when the economy go bad and I didn’t feel right calling up people asking them to buy products they just couldn’t afford. The other issues was the way the Company discontinued products so quickly. I had a lot of upset customers. Don’t get me wrong I did enjoy my time as a consultant and I did make some good frendships, although once you leave so do the friends. I did like many of the Company beliefs and methods that they used but once they started to become lack on the dress code they are going to be just like all the other makeup companies out there. I think that more consultants would stick around if their Directors weren’t so pushy and demanding, just my two cents.

    • Jennifererin27

      I am a current Mary Kay consultant and I agree about the pushy and demanding stuff…My director is wonderful, but she definitely like to get her 2 cents in and I have my own way of doing things whether they’re right or wrong.  It doesn’t matter, this is my business and I’ll working it the best I can without going broke or just breaking even to do so!

  • Busyb223

    Cheryl, you did what most us with little to no experience/knowledge would do. I totally understand what you are saying.

    I am kind of new to MLM (less than 2 yrs as a network marketer) but I’ve known about MK for years (didn’t know it was MLM until recently).  It’s so funny to have seen this article since I was just at a party on July 28th and my products will be dropped off to me this evening.  *s*

    Anywho, at my first MLM company we had meetings weekly but they really were for the prospects not the agents.  From the start of my MLM career I felt if I was going to succeed, I would need to figure this thing out on my own.  I had so many questions and I’m sure they could have been answered by someone but I went to good old GOOGLE and let my fingers do the walking and my eyes do the reading.  I researched the company I was looking at and compared it to a few others comparable to it before I clicked the submit button.  I didn’t know these people or this company. What is network marketing?, What is a warm/cold market?

    If I did not do the research, I would not know what I know today. I would not know that this is how tons of families have been able to leave inheritances for their children.  Many are able to have their own business and work smarter rather than harder. 

    What I do know is that no one gave me any direction on real training for the long haul. That “just talk to people” is not what has worked for me.  Not everyone is the “talk to people” type.  I sure wasn’t.

    My sponsor does not know the little I know about the business but she is doing pretty good (I  share with her what I’m learning).  She had a large warm market and it’s been working for her.  I knew that my warm market would not get me far so I had to stop being the little recluse that I can be and start meeting people outside of my friends friends.  I have always liked meeting new people no matter where I am and hearing their story because people love to talk about themselves.  We know that. In most cases I would wait until they would speak to me first. If no one spoke to me, where would I be? Left alone or talking to just those I knew. 

    So I started with just saying ”Hi or Good morning etc. just to begin opening my mouth. That lasted for months.  When it came to saying anything beyond that, I got butterflies, Why?

    I am able now to strike up a meaningful conversation with someone and if they are receptive I might ask them what kind of work they do, do they love etc?  I do not offer my partnership opportunity to everyone I speak with but I do try to speak with someone every day to become better at socializing face to face.  Even with just a “how are you today”?

    MLM is not for everyone, there is no doubt about that. But neither is working for someone else. Many people have problems working regular jobs but do it and are so miserable.

    However, I am going to keep at it because I’m doing it for my future grandchildren.  I don’t want them to have to be part of the 40/40/40 plan that has robbed many of their real dreams (work 40hrs a week, 40 yrs of your life, to live off 40% less of your income).  I don’t even want my daughter who is 25 and a college grad to get caught either.  But she has to make her own way. 

    If people would take the time to find the right company fit for them; work full-time at their current jobs and part-time at their fortune, there would be far less unemployment and less government assistance needed.  Not all companies require a $350 inventory sign-up or product purchases for the agent to stockpile. That is not for me, but I commend those who can do it and are successful at it.

    I am a very, very long way from getting where I know I can be but I’ll get there.  Thanks to MK for being one of the trailblazers of this industry. Paving the way and being around so long.  That shows the system does work for those who are WANT to work it.

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  • Cmf8375

    I have never been more disappointed by an article as I was reading this one.  I am currently a direct sales rep for an amazing company and not all experiences are as ridiculous, unplanned, or barely thought out as this writers’ experience.  IN fact, she should not have even been allowed to write the article.  First, she was 23, obviously immature, and easily persuaded by a half-hearted sales pitch.  Second, direct sales is not a pyramid scheme!  If it was, all companies would be out of business because they would all be participating in an illegal form of business.  My suggestion to anyone that I talk to about joining my team in my business is this, do your homework.  Read the materials available, read the website, call some friends, ask questions, check yourself to see if you’re even capable of what this company is asking of you, and then make a decision.  I am always honest and forthcoming to anyone who signs up that there is a cost and it will take time to make back your money.  But if you have the drive, patience, and determination to make back your money then breaking even is just the first step.  I think it is necessary on the part of LearnVest to write a follow up article on a positive experience working in the direct sales field with someone mildly or wildly successful.  Maybe even do your homework and find out which companies are not only doing it well with women making hundreds of thousands of dollars, but are doing it right by being honest about the business to the new recruits and providing outstanding training and support.

    • Jeanfrankcherie

      WHO should not have allowed the author to write the article? Mary Kay? Maybe you haven’t noticed but LearnVest is an independent publication and they can print the true experience of anybody that they want to.

      I admit I have a bias against Mary Kay. When I was younger and lonely like the author was, I was approached by three different women who feigned an interest in friendship with me and then ended up hard selling me. It put me off Mary Kay forever.

    • Jcburns06

      Not all 23 year olds are immature. You should think about what you post before you post it. However, I was disappointed by this article too.

    • Tammi

       Part of the problem is that consultants who are trying to build a team and are recruiting don’t encourage you to do your research.  You hear a lot of the “lore” about how great the company is and how easy it is to sell the products.  You also get a lot of pressure to buy inventory that you may or may not be able to afford.

  • MKisgr8

    Really sad that you have to bad mouth such a wonderful company that uplifts women.  Too bad you are full of yourself and didn’t take anything away from such a wonderful experience.  While it is not for everyone, Mary Kay lifts women and people up and doesn’t put them down like you did, you should branch out.

    • http://www.facebook.com/max.schoenholtz Max Schoenholtz

      I don’t see where the writer bad-mouthed MK.  She stated her own experience.  MK doesn’t have to tell potential recruits that it might not be the right job for everyone, why should they turn people off right at the start?  But many, many people do find this out – sadly, the hard way.

  • Cmoody975

    be glad you only invested $350, imagine you invested close to $6k. i did take advantage of the 90% buyback option, it’s there for a reason. this does not work for everyone… but the sales pitch does not always reflect that. The ladies I met were fabulous and very supportive (I still hear from my director on FB) but just in very different places. I have few friends and no family local and my husband’s coworkers are mostly single men. so. that. “Taking the leap” is not always in a new recruit’s best interest. that’s all

  • Shannon Eck

    To everyone writing the “shame on you” comments, Cheryl was only writing about HER experience.  The article is even tagged as “personal story.”  And although the company can be uplifting and positive, they unfortunately can’t buckle down on each of their reps to make sure they’re living up to the standards of Mary Kay.  When I was in middle school, my mom sold Mary Kay for about a year and didn’t make much of a profit at all; however, her friend that she signed up with is still doing Mary Kay and is able to stay home with her kids.  It’s all about who you know and what you know.  Companies like Mary Kay can be a GREAT fit for some people, but it’s not for everyone.  Great article, Cheryl!  Thanks for sharing your experience!

  • Jen

    I’m not a fan of Mary Kay products; however, makeup has always been a passion of mine. Selling makeup and many other products takes time, product knowledge and belief in what you’re selling, or just a keen salesperson. 
    It seems you left out the moral of the story: Do your research, find something you’re passionate about and maybe you’re just not a natural saleswoman….

    • http://www.facebook.com/max.schoenholtz Max Schoenholtz

      She DID say she’s not a good saleswoman…

  • Amanda P

    What I am finding so interesting is that as more women come out and say their own experience with this “Amazing” company, we are told we are wrong.  That it didn’t happen to us.  We are simply lying.  That thousands from all over the country felt the same thing at different times with different sales managers and recruiters but WE ARE WRONG!!!!  How can out own personal experiences be wrong? 
    Tell me this Pink Ladies…Why when someone “fails” in their DIQ ANYONE on their team then reverts to their SD?  How is it having a woman work so hard to build her team and then having some of that team get pulled out from under her enriching women?  That is the one thing that really ticked me off.  That I couldn’t be my sisters first recruit because if for some reason her recruiter didn’t complete DIQ then my sister and I would have to go to separate meetings, have different sales directors, and my sister was the one to recruit me.  For that reason  I choose to really be recruited by our DIQ.  How is that ever right or enriching?  Other then for the SD and NSD…they get enriched.  That is not SD to SD or script to script.  That is company policy.

  • http://www.facebook.com/max.schoenholtz Max Schoenholtz

    It’s the same way with that famous home-party burp*ware plastic container (& other products) company.  At my first (and only) training session, I thought I was at a cheerleaders convention, they had us up and yelling, jumping, and so on.  At least with MK, you are selling competitively-priced products (IMO).  I guess direct sales smell like pyramid schemes to me … that and the fact that I’m also not such a great (okay, I suck at it) salesperson.

  • Amanda Socci

    Cheryl:

    This was a beautifully written and described blog post detailing your experiences with Mary Kay.  I must say I did exactly the same thing that you did, barely two years ago, as a sales representative for AVON.  I did my shtick for nine months and lost tons of money and respect for myself in the process.  I hope women are able to turn to other jobs for income!

    Amanda Socci
    Alexandria, Virginia
    http://socciwriter.blogspot.com

  • Fifer11962

    While I understand Cheryl was just “voicing her experience”, I believe if she didn’t want to slam the MK company she could have shared her experience in a much more objective way……there were some falsehoods stated, or implied by the author.  To imply that Mary Kay is a “money making scheme” is hardly the truth.
    It is not a pyramid company as some other direct selling companies are.  It is a DUAL-MARKETING business plan.  One of the main reasons Mary Kay started the business was to give people, mostly women, the opportunity to control their own success and not rely on others, and be over looked, as she experienced in her previous sales jobs. Others do not become rich off others.  You get out of MK what you put into it. And yes, her business philosophies are the golden rule (Treat others the way you want to be treated) and to have your priorities in place — Faith first, then family then business.  I believe MK is still going strong because of these business philosophies.  (Yes, humans are involved so, yes, not EVERYONE runs their business as Mary Kay herself would have wanted).Everything you need to begin your business IS included in the $100 starter kit, along with many training resources (so no extra $ was needed for supplies, such as mirrors, samples, etc. unless she wanted more of them)Sadly, it sounds like Cheryl did not receive or take advantage of the support or training that is available to new consultants.  Like any job, it does take time to learn, it does take hard work to be successful.  If she held 10 parties and only made $30 at each, someone with experience (director, recruiter, or leader) should have worked with her to figure out why her sales were low.  My guess is she wasn’t using the product herself, she wasn’t sold on the business, or confident in what she was doing and that translated to her “customers”.  As far as her investment — MK does offer a 90% buy back guarantee, so if she’d returned her unused product she would have recouped most of her $.  Another reason why it is a great opportunity to try……Cheryl, in the future if you’d like to share “your experience”, use your objective writing skills to do it in a less demeaning way. You are right when you said MK is not for everyone.  I believe the bottom line is that your heart was never really in it, so you did not succeed at it….no fault of the company.I am happy for you that you did pursue your passion, living your dream and surrounded by millions of people….and hopefully a few great friends!

    • Amanda P

       Okay some quick questions for you then.  If Direct sale…or dual marketing…or whatever is not for everyone…why recruit everyone?  Why have all of the promotions within the company for recruiting?  I mean what is more important to the company getting 600k women shelling out $100 per person to find out it is not for them, or 50k (1000 reps in each state is MORE then enough) selling THOUSANDS.   Why not instead of recruiting all of those women as personal use, why not give a real preferred customer program through the company?  Put that way, does it sound like it is about recruiting?  And if it is about recruiting, isn’t it then a pyramid scheme? 

  • Mcr72305

    I am so thankful to have found a company that is not party plan or MLM. It has the best preferred customer program and compensation plan out there. I never sell products, just refer others to a store that I love to shop at myself. A store with exceptional products that people use in their homes all the time and have to purchase every month because they run out. But the best part is that while they are better quality than supermarket brands they are a better value and they are green! You can contact me for more info. at http://www.EcoMomTeamSouth.com. I am blesses and love to pass it on.

    • Jane Jetson

      I am surprised how many LV posters support MK and MLMs.  I wonder how many of these people are LV regulars.  

  • CNo Financial Advisor

    I think it’s really unfortunate your site thought it was appropriate to print this biased article.  I am a financial advisor and think that this type of business can be indefinitely lucrative for the right people – you have likely now turned 100s of women off from any type of “pyramid-scheme” businesses that in the end can actually make them lots of money (even if just a “passive” $1k/month … who wouldn’t want that the rest of their lives???) It’s too bad there isn’t a followup to this article showing people what the possibility of these types of businesses can provide … but THEY TAKE WORK, they are NOT built overnight! 

    - dissatisfied with your editing team

    • Amanda P

      It takes work but you can get a passive income of 1000 a month?  Please advise everyone of how you do that.

      • CNo Financial Advisor

        It takes work (and time and rejection and lots of trials and errors) but in sales of any sort you absolutely have the ability to earn an indefinite amount of income. My referenced example is of a handful of my stay-at-home mom clients … One does the Juice Plus business, another Arbonne, and another Shklee …obviously their businesses didn’t grow overnight and many failed when it was “too hard” and quit . My financial advisory practice is no different … Many new hires start with the idea of making “unlimited income” but maybe 10% actually hit their goals and less than 5% make what the far right of the bell curve may consider “a lot”. My main point is this article is extremely backwards and discouraging to those empowered women who want to start their own business – really of any sort . Talk to successful businesswomen in nearly any industry and you’ll lern it want built overnight. I now earn 400% more than I did in my 1st year (8 years ago) but work 1/3 the hours I used to … 80% of those around me failed out. Just know the facts, don’t publish an article saying how these businesses are a farce :/ (apologies for typos writing from my iPad!!)

        • CNo Financial Advisor

          Also – to clarify – in my financial advisory practice I worked nearly 80 hrs/wk for 9 months before the results started up. Many around me at that point quit but I stuck with the model of key activities hat many before me swore by would work if I kept at it. Of course many around me did not succeed because the business itself wasn’t a good fit … But others simply didn’t do what had to be one. I chose to try to do 2x the goal set for myself (of key activities-,in the MK biz this would mean making 4x as many calls and then seeing at least 2x as many parties – so the momentum would build more quickly. All I’m saying is there is HUGE potential – not only financial but also maintaining autonomy and being your own boss- but it requires some serious up-front work and mental toughness as it is HARD WORK!

          • mt

            Any financial advisor who suggests MLM as a good business opportunity is probably the same financial advisor who hawks financial products with huge front loads and has not the faintest clue what things like “diversification” or “asset allocation”actually mean.   I’m not a financial advisor – however I work in finance (asset management).  If you want to make a little extra money, you’re better off buying a hen and laying some eggs.  At least you can eat what you don’t sell.  

          • Mary Kayncer survivor.

            Amen….Amen

      • StelladotKris

        I’ve been with Stella & Dot for 2 years now. I earn on a slow month $1000 a month, so yes, it’s totally possible. Coaching my team of 50+ stylists to success, and setting aside set business hours each week to ensure I hit my goals. I do anywhere from 3-10 shows a month, earning $100-$250 per show. It’s completely possible-if you set your mind to it, set your goals, and work-like any business, it requires work. The money doesn’t just flow in if you don’t work your business!

    • C.W.
      • CNo Financial Advisor

        Are you a bitter failed advisor? I work for a fortune 300 company and have been published in Forbes ( and no, not Primerica) … Again so sad you women are “hating” on the possibility that someone could succeed in these businesses, shame on you.

        cW, good luck to you …

        • C.W.

          YOU are the one assuming MY gender and occupation?  P.S. why are you here?  I have a specific agenda concerning a loved one.  You claim to be so successful, yet provide no proof? Proof or it didn’t happen, lady.

          Forbes?  Oh my, I’m positively RIGID.  

          P.S. the link wasn’t for you.  And, every time you comment on this page you help drive it up the list of google hits, such as what I googled this evening to find this.  So, thank you. 

    • lmao

      The truth hurts.

      • http://www.facebook.com/plogan721 Patricia Logan

        IMAO- you sound like you have made up your mind, and like Cheryl, this type of business is not right for you too.  I am sorry you had a bad experience.  No matter what you say, with the right training, Direct Selling can really profit.   Again, if you do not have to work at a business or have skills, those are the type of work at home type businesses to stay clear of.  You are looking at one experience.  If you were expecting to be a millionaire off of direct selling and whoever told you that you could make a million gave you the wrong impression about it.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1702175115 Erica Finke

      It’s funny how the Bias/Not Balanced Card is played when multi-level rackets like Mary Kay aren’t bowed to like the proverbial statue of Nebuchadnezzar.  Trot through MK’s website and you won’t see stories of women who got out because they knew they had to do something to save their finances, marriage, and sense of morality.  Read through the websites and Facebook pages of top Mary Kay leaders and you will soon discover that hard questions about the business are not allowed, nor is any sense of “unbelief.”  One NSD threatened her consultants by telling them that if they were negative, MK Corporate could terminate them as a consultant.  Gee, lie much? 

      I say it’s about darned time pieces like this made the media; Mary Kay Cosmetics has shot off its one-sided forked tongue long enough and the public needs to hear the other side.  Only THEN will they have all the information needed to make educated decisions for themselves.

      And yes, you better believe I had to Google the proper spelling of “Nebuchadnezzar”. We all would.    

  • Scaffe

    Hi Cheryl, I think you are still too young to appreciate how business works. From the way you describe the business, it just seems that the business was just not for you. You are not a good salesperson – what what you could of needed is just some proper sales training. I am sure that would have made your experience a little more profitable. But that being said, you probably still would have never kept it up – you need to be a sales oriented person to succeed in that type of business.

    • lmao

      Balderdash.

  • Eva Porter

    I tried the Mary Kay thing at a particularly low point in my career; I was employed full time, had two young kids and a husband who worked even more hours than I did. I too was taken by the idea of it all  and shelled out quite a few dollars in the initial investment. I soon learned, like the writer, that I’m no salesperson.  

    I guess what really hooked me in was the salemanship of the woman who was my “sponsor”. It was like I didn’t want to disappoint her by not pursuing the opportunity.

    The bottom line is that while I’m sure this is a lucrative venture for some, I think MK does a good job of selling the dream. Like anything, buyer beware.

  • Tburnsed17

    This story sounds like my personal experience as a Mary Kay Consultant. I worked fulltime and did this parttime.  I lasted about 2 months as I saw I spent more time and money attending meetings/trainings.  After hosting parties for family and friends, it was hard to get additional parties.  Soon I realized that this business was not for me.  But I heard similar stories about the success of MK as this woman in the article heard.  It’s been years since my MK experience, but it just wansn’t for me.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XCQMNGYIEGWCNBUJWFOCWTFSYU master redfox

    I also did the Mary Kay route.  It has become such a pyramid setup so different  from the days of the original Mary Kay herself.  Unless you have a very active Web site it is not a money maker for those on the bottom just those on the top levels who get a “commission” of those below them.  You might as well get a job selling cosmetics in a department store and make at least an hourly pay plus commission on what you sell.

  • anita

    Direct selling is the hardest business I know of. The hardest part is making yourself call one more person, or calling people you have not met, to introduce yourself to offer them the opportunity to hostess a party, where they can get some things free for themselves, based on sales and bookings at their party.
     
    It can be hard, until you get used to it.
     
    I have been “out of business,”  many, many times. What does “being out of business” mean?  It  means you have an empty datebook with no bookings for more parties. Mary Kay used to tell us that if you were out of bookings, you were out of business. 
     
    The fastest way to make money in Mary Kay is in selling the wonderful product.  Mary Kay has products for all skin types and the latest in technology and patents.
     
    There were times when I just didn’t want to get out of bed in the morning, because I was so down because I was out of bookings.  But, this pity party only lasted a little while and then I would get back to work, and work the phone. If I did not have names to call, I found some. I found that people that I did not know were more likely to say yes than close friends and family.
     
    Besides, even if all of of my family and friends  had said yes,which they didn’t,  I would never have sold those particular people enough to make much of a living. That would not  be logical.  Even people who sell life insurance know that to survive they have to learn how to be a professional sales person, and after they have sold insurance to their close family, that they have to branch out. This is hard, but people  learn to do it every day.
     
    It is not hard to ask people to have a party for you. What is hard is getting up the courage to ask them. The more you ask different people, the easier it gets. Most peole say no.  But if you ask enough people you will get plenty of yesses.
     
    Every person in sales understands that to get a book of business, you have to make calls.
     
    The reason some people have a hard time booking parties is that they are not asking enough people. They stop after 4 no’s. 
     
    Years ago, I heard that a registered representative for a well known stock firm was required to cold call 100 people every day. If she did not meet this target, then she would be let go, draw, insurance and all.
     
    I never did have to call 100  people in a day. But there were a lot of weeks, many weeks,  where I asked about 50 women to have a makeup party. Of course, most said “no.”  But, a few said “yes,” and this is what helped me make it in this business.  The golden yesses put me in front of some buying customers!
     
    The yesses were what has made my career.  I was willing to be told no enough times that I gradually built up a decent business.
     
    I would like to know how many people who are in sales somehow become overnight successes without asking a lot of people to hear their sales pitch. Most of the time, they get turned down flat. That is how it is in sales. 
     
    I admire people who own their own businesses. It is no different for them. They have invested money into an idea, but it is up to them to get people to come and buy their product or services.
     
    Some people who do not understand sales think there is something wrong if you do not easily get yesses.  There are professional skills to be learned on how to present a businss card and introduce yourself, in a social setting. It does not start with, “Do you need any makeup?”
     
    When I joined Mary Kay, all I had to have was a sales kit, for around $100 today’s cost.  People I know who have any other type of bricks and mortar business take a much bigger financial  risk to try out their business ideas. 
     
    The only way I was going to make this work was to hold lots and lots of parties.  That was 41 years ago, and I have never once regretted my decision to go into sales with Mary Kay Cosmetics.  But it is not easy. It is a simple business, but it is not easy. What is hard is overcoming your own personal fear of rejection.
     
    Once you get over your fear of being turned down or rejected by someone, then the rest is easy. It is the same in any kind of sales. No one in sales I know of gets a YES every time. That is unrealistic.
     
    One time I met a college graduate ( I am a college graduate myself.) whose job it was to sell copier machines, back in the day. I was at a doctor’s office and she came in. Her job was to go door to door to every business in her territory asking anyone and everyone if they needed a new copier or if they would like to try out the one she had out in her car.
     
    There is turnover in every type of work, nursing, teaching, you name it. But if you stick with sales you can make a very good living.  A lot of people cannot take the rejection and that is fine. Not everyone is cut out for sales.
     
    I think, in the same way, you could compare it to real estate. If you are out of listings, you are not doing so well.  Or, if no one wants to let you show them a property, how are you going to make a sale?
     
    Other than the $100 starter kit, which has over $300 of product in it, for personal use, or  for demonstrations, that is the only thing one needs in order to sell Mary Kay.
     
    IF someone decides to order some merchandise to take to the paries, they can do that. If someone decides to stop selling Mary Kay, the Company will buy back their unsold inventory and they  send the Consultant 90% of her money back. That is amazing when you think about it. I don’t know of any bricks and mortar business, or bank that will let you get your money back if you change your mind and decide not to continue in a particular business.
     

    • http://www.facebook.com/plogan721 Patricia Logan

      Anita-  I was hoping someone would have something positive to say about direct selling.  I sell Longaberger products, and I feel the same way you do.  You put in what you get out of it.  Direct selling is not for everyone, but it is also not the pyramid scheme that everyone wants to think it is.  I am reinventing my business everyday, not because I have to, because I want to.  I decided from the very beginning that this was a slow process for me.  At the time I started selling Longaberger, I did not have a job and I was in school.  Longaberger has been good for me in terms of being able to help me pay for my classes.   In 2004, I started working at a scrapbook store, part-time, and they were very accommodating when I had a party or a open house.  I could ask for time off or work mostly days when I had a party.  In 2010 I made the decision to leave the store for several reasons.  It was rough at first, but I have now gotten to point of managing my schedule again.   Longaberger does have some brick and mortar places where consultants can meet with customers and potential recruits and be a ambassador for the company, while earning extra commission that way as well.   I also have an online party going on at the moment.  I was never told by my upline nor by Tami herself that we would be making millions of dollars in the industry.  Yes, we ask for the sale, but we are also told not to be pushy about it either.  Offer your literature to a person, speak about the benefits to them, and follow-up with them, but you ask if you can contact them.
      It is all about how you approach a person.  Longaberger does have a yearly quota requirement ($1000) but not a monthly or quarterly one.  You get incentives if you sell a certain amount, but it not a requirement.  I get a free website, Discount (20%) and commission (25%).  Again the more you put into your business the more you get out of it.  I am going on my 11 years with the company in October.  I cannot say that is has always been easy, and yes there times where I wanted to quit, but for the moment I am still enjoying the ride.  I am not trying to make millions off of it either.  If you want to accuse anyone of a pyramid scheme, it is the ones who say you do not have to work at all, or need any skills.  Those are the ones you stay way from.

      • anita

        Patricia, congratulations on your work ethic and commitment to your business.  I love my Longaberger baskets. Such a nice product line.

    • Lazy Gardens

      “If someone decides to stop selling Mary Kay, the Company will buy back
      their unsold inventory and they  send the Consultant 90% of her money
      back. That is amazing when you think about it. I don’t know of any
      bricks and mortar business, or bank that will let you get your money
      back if you change your mind and decide not to continue in a particular
      business.”

      1 – It’s only for the product ordered within the last year, and doesn’t cover anything but product (no “Section 2″).

      The people who got a commission when that product was purchased (recruiter, director, all the way up the line to NSD) will have to pay back the commission.

      So of course, the upline’s goal will be do stall the return until it had become ineligible for return.  Some of them even have a cheesy little “Mary Kay Oath” where they have the new IBC swear to stay in one full year. that way the big start-up inventory doesn’t go back

      2 – It is required by Texas law … it’s not out of the goodness of their hearts. If the LAW required only 50%, or required nothing, that’s what they would do.

  • Imdb

    I did the same with both Amway and Mellaluca. Amway had some great products and people, people I’m still with today. Mellaluca I didn’t sell, but instead ordered from. They only had auto-order, so I received a lot of stuff that I would never buy and even more rarely use. 

  • Carrie

    I can totally relate to this. For a short time, I sold Nuskin, which is a similar mode to Mary Kay. As it turned out, our neighborhood was already saturated with Nuskin skin care and beauty products and parties, so there was no interest in it and I gave up.

  • lmao

    I bought a starter kit when a “friend” got involved in MK, but I was so disinterested that I never even picked it up!  That was in 1981.  In about 1998 my husband thought Nikken was the bomb.  Right again, a royal bomb.  I would love to start a pyramid scheme, but all the losers in the world are already involved with something else.

  • Marilovalvo

    Great Story and true for many women.  Watch out for the ‘too good to be true’ sales people.  Sometimes we just don’t belong in certain places.  Only follow your heart and do what you know how to do well.

  • Cassie L Wilkerson

    I will tell you all operations are pyramid schemes Tupperware, Avon, Mary Kay, Pampered Chef – yes even the fund raisers for schools and the classics like girl scout cookies ……what it takes to succeed in these niches is a larger network base and drive that most people don’t have only 1 in 8 really make a go the other 7 are fodder for those top 1% that’s life it’s the same with all those affiliate marketing niches ……….that’s the clue the word niche and saturation – most don’t examine how saturated their territory or network before signing on……..that is what they don’t tell you off hand that saves you a world of good. These are keys even if you want to do E-bay, Etsy, Amazon or any other venue. You just have to be a different animal to direct sell and take rejection like a duck to water- it’s tough work but it takes a ambitious, positive turnaround charismatic attitude person and diplomatic to turn a negative to $$$! 

    Best advice a friend gave me, “If you have what it takes to sell political votes to anti-govt folks, snow to Eskimos and Sand to dessert Nomads then your ideal for this job but honey if can do all that why bother run for politics its more lucrative with more dang perks!”~Emma Snow

    • Lazy Gardens

      “most don’t examine how saturated their territory or network before signing on”

      Try asking Mary Kay or any other MLM how many active reps they have in your area.

      They won’t tell. They spent a bundle of money lobbying to avoid a regulation that would have forced them to reveal that information.

  • Baker_sal

    While I was never an MK consultant, I was successful in direct sales for 10 years. Sounds to me that you while could have used more support, your over-all “vision” of the business is flawed. Being self employed takes work. Sales generally don’t just walk in your door. I don’t know any sales person or company that started on top. Direct sales is NOT a pyramid scheme. Pyramid schemes involve no product. You sign people up, take their money and send it up the chain. Direct sales involves work. If you aren’t willing to do the work, than you will most likely fail. Don’t blame the business for your failure.

  • http://260daysnorepeats.blogspot.com Iris

    I had a similar experience with Stella & Dot. I could have gotten behind it more if I didn’t feel like such a pariah trying to hock things to my small personal network and the expensive luxury products didn’t start falling apart. 

    • http://www.thesmileyeffect.com/ Eboné Smiley

      Iris, I’m sorry that you had a bad expereince with your business, but nearly 2 years in with Stella & Dot and I have never had problems. If there is an issue with an item, they will replace it, no questions asked. Plus I’m profitable and my personal network doesn’t support my business. I meet new people often and share the style with them.

  • http://twitter.com/powersbydesign Christopher Powers

    By definition, a pyramid scheme is:
    “A successful pyramid scheme combines a fake yet seemingly credible business with a simple-to-understand yet sophisticated-sounding money-making formula which is used for profit. The essential idea is that a “con artist” Mr. X, makes only one payment. To start earning, Mr. X has to recruit others like him who will also make one payment each. Mr. X gets paid out of receipts from those new recruits. They then go on to recruit others. As each new recruit makes a payment, Mr. X gets a cut. He is thus promised exponential benefits as the “business” expands.
    Such “businesses” seldom involve sales of real products or services to which a monetary value might be easily attached. However, sometimes the “payment” itself may be a non-cash valuable. To enhance credibility, most such scams are well equipped with fake referrals, testimonials, and information.
    The flaw is that there is no end benefit. The money simply travels up the chain. Only the originator (sometimes called the “pharaoh”) and a very few at the top levels of the pyramid make significant amounts of money. The amounts dwindle steeply down the pyramid slopes. Individuals at the bottom of the pyramid (those who subscribed to the plan, but were not able to recruit any followers themselves) end up with a deficit.”

    Mary Kay is NOT a pyramid scheme, people.

  • Gonzalezerica10

    I love my Mark Kay foundation. It’s the best makeup, i’ve used it since I was 16.

  • Jadepar

    Direct sales are not for everyone. You get what you put into it but you have to have a passion for your product and the personality to sell things.  I’m a Scentsy Consultant, the company is making men and women all over the world successful, independent and blessed.  

    • Abrewer08

      I’m a Scentsy rep as well and love it, but it is t always easy with the current financial difficulties people are having.

  • Sctallgirl2000

    Mary Kay is an incredible Christian company that treats its sales force well, offers the best skincare and cosmetics in the industry at an affordable price, pays great commissions and prizes, and offers any woman a chance to have a successful business.  Those who work the business properly following the Golden Rule and Mary Kay’s rules of God first, family second, and career third, will soar!  I used to sell it and made great money.  I still use it and NOTHING else touches my face!  I’m 58 and look like about 40.  Thank you Mary Kay!  

  • Meg

    I’m disappointed the author didn’t have a good experience with Mary Kay and seemed to not have the support I have enjoyed with the Company.  I am a Mary Kay Consultant and transitioning from working in the corporate world to working for myself.  Direct selling isn’t for everyone, but like anything, you have to have a passion for what you do to be energized and succeed.

    I have found a great deal of support through the company and have continued to be impressed with the low cost and free resources that are there for the taking.  As some others have noted, the hardest thing is to have the courage to ask people outside of your comfort zone.
    For the record, Girl Scout cookies are not a pyramid scheme – I am not sure where that comment came from, but they are one of the key fundraising resources for Girl Scouting. 

  • Richigrl2

    I dont understand why you ran this article. I’ve never done Mary Kay but clearly this girl has really bad business practices, no wonder why she failed. And not returning someone’s call who is trying to help you s just rude.

    • Tjhouse08

      I did Avon twice and avoiding their calls really are’nt all that rude when they are calling you 20 times a day to purchcase things you do not need,and buy a bundance of catalogs you already have. It can be overwhelming. So its really what a person wants to deal with,I did answer and tell them that I no longer wanted to be involed and they would still call,so i ended up not answering calls after awhile so they would get the hint. I was very young then,and now being older I belive that I could do it without any problems being I’ve already played the game. So things just are not for some people.

  • SuzanneB

    I don’t work for Mary Kay but know people like Anita who have made Mary Kay a life long career that pays well and affords them a great lifestyle. 

    Of course every business endeavor requires hard work and extending oneself.  It appears the author was not cut out for sales and should blame only herself for her inaction and disinterest in direct sales.

    • anthonysmom

      Wow – “it appears the author was not cut out for sales and should blame only herself for her inaction and disinterest in direct sales.”  That’s right.  Blame the author not the company that sets people up to fail.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/3J2TZDPBJLFSWGPXR5QXQUKVAY ziva

    St. Augustine eh?? Lived there for many years I believe I know the couple you are talking about. I loved St. Aug. I have had many chances to get into MLMs.. Isagenix.. Supplements that were endorsed by Dr. Northrup. Zrii endorsed by Chopra. I knew that that wasn’t for me. You experienced what I probably would have experienced if I took the plunge..

  • janniemk
  • PhilChance

    I’m okay with the article & while MK & others boast of their successes where are the numbers for the failures? The company makes money even off the fails so it is not a loss to them. The author is talking about her experience & failed attempt at MK.  There are usually conditions on buy backs or kits.  Also your leader will encourage you to buy more, latest colors, whatever as they are also making money off you in this way.  I’m not saying good or bad I’m just saying I think there are way more people who do not get what they were sold themselves.  In this regard the author is spot on.  I have a friend who has a pink car, so obsessed to get out what she had invested in MK her marriage went out the window.  She had a room of product & an office to track her downline & spent a good deal of time with those people.  MK upline was still calling her to do more… during her very messy divorce.  Those above her did not want to lose their income either.
     
    I’ve been ambushed by many of these companies over the years & while it may work for some & be a success for few I doubt this is the norm.  The norm I have come to know is that people make a little extra cash, some happy just for their own discounts.  Had they been paying themself a salary most would have been a loss. Truely in business you have to count employee pay, even if it is you.  Your time is not free, your transpertation & phone are not free.  I think this is missing from this business plan, especially for the initial investor. 

    I think most come and go just like the author did.  Me, I got a not right feeling right from the first fake smile of enthusiasm.

  • Jd_mcclendon

    Wow!  I just started MK 3weeks ago.  Didn’t see this article until today.  I do notice that they don’t give you the real numbers when you start but I still see it as a positive experience so far.  It’s jut alot more work and more money that goes into it than what they advertise.  I have always wanted to own my own busienss and I have taken business classes and had all of the necessary education but there is nothing like real world experience.  I am using this Mary Kay business as a stepping stone in one day possibly owning my own business so for me the learning experience and the motivation they provide is worth what I have spent so far. However I can’t be as fake as many of the consultants seem to be I am the type of person that likes to tell the truth and not lead someone to believe one thing and it ends up being another.  I think they do that a little more than they should with this business but like I said it’s still a positive experience.  I just see that I have to actually do my own thing and not follow everything my director says.  Even the scripts they provide seem to be a litte too fluffy and fake but I have been able to make them sound more authentic using some different wording .  I already have people who want to join my team and when/if they do I will be sure to give them the true storey from my own perspective.  I actually don’t want to be a NSD I don’t want the car and I don’t care for the jewelry.  I just want to learn how to have confidence in what I am selling and how to be a good leader.  Overall just being part of MK for 3 weeks and learnig the ropes has been very uplifting. 

    • Anna Schatzman

      Jd_mcclendon- Doesn’t it make you wonder why someone would post so openly her bad experience? I know that as a consultant I would not say bad things about another company. Mary Kay is great but is not for everyone. Working very closely with your director, being honest and geniune, and following Mary Kay’s Consultant’s guide will bring you success. If I could give you one peice of advice I would tell you to block out all of the negative. Mary Kay is not for everyone but if it is for you then surround yourself with others who believe in you! If you need ever have questions or want to chat you are welcome to add me on Facebook @ Anna Schatzman, Mary Kay Independent Beauty Consultant
      Best of luck to you!

      • anthonysmom

        Gee, then I wonder why I wasn’t successful after I worked very closely with my director and followed the consultant guide, plus ordered inventory like a good little Kaybot…I attended Career Conf, Seminar, went to all the weekly meetings & guest events, went to NSD events – everything!  I was a Star quarter after quarter and had my red jacket.  Still, I couldn’t get to profit level and believe me, I had “profit level” sitting on my shelves.  I warm stalked people, I had parties (every kind of theme party you can imagine).  I had over 200 people on my PCP list.  Yet, I still couldn’t turn a profit.  I was also slammin’ with my own makeup/hair/clothes.  I was showin’ up to go up!  Yet… Was it me?  Was I a lazy loser?  Nope.  I worked my business 24/7 for 3 years, while also working a full-time job and couldn’t dig myself out of the hole.  It wasn’t me or the hard work I was putting in.  It’s a plan that’s set-up for failure.  The next time you have a “successful director” in front of you who’s bragging about her super awesome income – ask to see her most recent Schedule C.  I bet she won’t show it.  In fact, why don’t you share your Sched C, Anna?  How much was your TRUE profit in 2011? Or so far in 2012?  Then go read everything on http://www.pinktruth.com.  There are former consultants/directors/future NSD’s on that site – all with their own stories.

    • Wendell Beverstock

      My philosophy is never give more than you can walk away from….

  • Guest

    I also dropped a few thousand dollars in Arbonne (similar to MK) to live a “beautiful freelance life”.  No one tells you the downside if you’re not a networker and slick as oil salesperson.  They should focus on people who have better sales experience and not try for everyone.  I’m no longer doing it either, as I also got out in just a few months, but that few months cost me a few thousand dollars which I should have put toward a retirement account, I think that is the main point of the learn vest article, it is not for everyone and in an online community of savers makes sense for this article to be posted.  Also, these companies fail to tell you that the market is so saturated with other sellers that it doesn’t make sense to go into these businesses anymore unless you are amazingly convince able and solid sales skills.  MaryKay made money maybe in the 50s and 60s, the dream no longer exists for any person, without the ability to target experienced sales people or the right personality, by targeting everyone just to rise themselves to the next level of the company, they are all basically pyramid schemes hidden under a product.  I can’t believe they aren’t regulated.  While others may criticize it, I think it is a great contribution for others to consider before going down this road.  The negatives or challenges should be more clear before someone blindly chooses this career path.  Thank you for your article, Cheryl.