8 Financial Red Flags in a Relationship

Carrie Sloan
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Love is blind—and never more than when it comes to our money.

But how do you keep from choosing a dubious financial partner while falling head over heels? It isn’t easy, as any of us who’ve loved and wound up in the red can tell you.

That’s what this list is for. In between the flowers and the heart flutters, take the time to see if the person you love fits any of these eight signs.

By the way, this advice is steeped in real-life experience, as well as a recent survey by TD Ameritrade about the biggest financial dealbreakers in Americans’ love lives. Not to mention research from the National Marriage Project about the most likely predictors of divorce—many of which center around money.

After reading these signs, if you’re tempted to say, “Oh, but my lovebunny isn’t really like that …”, call your mom or your closest girlfriend and discuss. One sign alone doesn’t mean your relationship is in jeopardy. And for each, we’ll give you a recommendation of what to do next if your true love fits the profile.

Check out the signs the one you love just might be bad for your financial health.

1. He’s in Major Credit Card Debt (and Not Doing Anything About It)

We know: Life happens. Icky things like a job loss or divorce can put you in the hole quickly. (Which is why we always recommend you build at least a six-month emergency fund.) We’re not saying you shouldn’t date anyone with debt to his name. The red flag in this situation is someone who continues to accrue it—and doesn’t have a plan to undo it.

Not only does the habit suggest you’re falling for someone who can’t handle money responsibly, there’s also evidence it can hurt you both long-term. “Consumer debt is an equal-opportunity marriage destroyer,” reports a 2009 report by the National Marriage Project. “It does not matter if couples are rich or poor, working class or middle class. If they accrue substantial debt, it puts a strain on their marriage.”

Credit card debt increases the likelihood a couple will fight over money—as well as issues other than money—and decreases the time they spend with one another, shows a study published in the Journal of Family and Economic Issues. And the couples in the study who had accrued debt actually grew less happy over time as compared to those without it.

What You Can Do: The flip side of that same study shows that couples who made a plan and tackled their debt together remained happier with each other over the long-term. Debt definitely needn’t spell the end of a relationship, but it does mean you need to have a talk about how either partner got into debt in the first place and what you’ll do together to pay it off. Our “Get to Your Goal” calculator is an easy way to see how long it could take you.

2. He Spends Like a Drunken Sailor

Whether it’s literally getting drunk and buying a round for the whole bar, or just a serious taste for pricey new gadgets, spending as though money is going out of style can be a warning sign.

“When individuals feel that their spouse doesn’t handle money well, they report lower levels of marital happiness,” say the researchers. In fact, one study showed that feeling like your partner spent money foolishly increased the likelihood of divorce 45% for both men and women. Only extramarital affairs and alcohol or drug abuse were stronger predictors of being headed for splitsville.

What You Can Do: If your partner is fabulously wealthy, his spending is well within his budget or he has otherwise healthy financial habits, you can probably relax. But if your heart rate goes up every time he opens his wallet or unveils another new “toy,” it’s time for a talk.

People overspend for a lot of different reasons. Your first goal should be to communicate that his habits make you uncomfortable. One easy way to start the conversation? Take our “What’s Your Money Belief?” quiz together to reveal the emotions behind the financial decisions you each make.

3. You Have Vastly Different Attitudes Toward Money

While opposites do attract, and this needn’t spell doom, having vastly different worldviews when it comes to your finances can cause friction. Maybe you’re the spender, he’s the saver, or vice versa. Either way, over time, being nagged can wear thin. The problem is that resentment builds up.

Take a pair of married friends we know: “She has no concept of what a budget even means!” he’ll rail when he discovers yet another shopping bag. She, on the other hand, defends herself, saying: “I work so hard, I deserve to buy what I want.” They’re caught in a money stalemate.

What You Can Do: The goal isn’t to decide who’s ultimately right, just to get on the same page so you’re not fighting every time you head to the ATM. One of the easiest ways is to look at how you pool your money. If you need to have this talk, or you’re just headed for the altar soon, our free “Getting Hitched” bootcamp—which tells you everything a couple needs to know to combine their finances—is a great place to start.

One quick rule of thumb? Allocate money that is yours, mine and ours. LearnVest recommends 75% be shared for household expenses and meeting financial goals, with 25% as discretionary income you can spend on your own.

4. He’s Frequently Unemployed

Lose a job once? Can happen to anyone. We’re talking more about a serial pattern of unemployment, which has been shown to have serious impact on the future of your relationship.

First, the common sense: A pattern like this could suggest there’s something underlying his patchy employment history other than a bad economy or bum luck. Whether it’s a problem with authority or a lack of responsibility, neither bodes well for your long-term happiness. (If multiple employers don’t find him reliable, odds are you won’t either.)

Plus, according to a study by Liana Sayer of Ohio State University, while a woman’s employment status had no effect on the likelihood her husband would head for the hills, a man’s unemployment, on the other hand, increased the chances his wife would initiate divorce and the chances he would leave.

Even men who were relatively happy in their marriages were more likely to skedaddle if they lost a job. The researchers chalk it up to the fact that there’s still more societal pressure on men to be the breadwinners.

What You Can Do: Look at the big picture. Was he affected by the recession? Does he work in a particularly volatile industry? If neither of those explains the pattern, talk to your partner about your concerns and see whether he has a good explanation … or gets defensive. If it’s the latter, you may want to recommend he seek help from a therapist to figure out the underlying issues.

5. He Doesn’t Want to Get Married

This is an interesting one: Dating a commitment-phobe can actually mean you’re hurting your chances not just of walking down the aisle, but also of accumulating wealth.

Researchers have found that getting married improves your fortune in more ways than one. First, there are economies of scale (two can live more cheaply than one, and each specializes in what he or she is good at—like fixing a computer or changing a light bulb, so you can save on hiring someone to do the task. )

But there’s also something about committing to a life together that has a halo effect on your finances. Overall, married couples save and invest more for the future (and, at the same time, act as built-in insurance for each other against uncertainties like an illness or pink slips). And something about committing to a partner makes men more virile economically: Married guys actually earn between 10% and 40% more than single men with similar education and job histories.

What You Can Do: Only you can answer whether marriage matters to you. But for anyone in a committed couple, the best things you can do are to be honest about your approach to your finances, make a joint plan to tackle debt and create lifestyle and savings goals you want to reach together, like saving up for a down payment, or socking away $20,000 in your emergency fund.

Happily, building assets together, researchers say, is one way to grow closer as a couple. “Assets … sweeten and solidify the ties between spouses,” says the National Marriage Project, “by minimizing any sense of financial unease that couples feel, with the result that they experience less conflict.”

6. He Declared Bankruptcy, or Got Foreclosed On

Most of us are already on the same page about this one. In a recent “Couples & Money” survey by TD Ameritrade, women said their top two biggest financial dealbreakers in a relationship were bankruptcy (42%) and foreclosure (32%).

Men, on the other hand, cited bankruptcy and high credit card debt, at 24% and 21% respectively.

There are two considerations at work here: what it says about your partner and what it means for your joint future. Bankruptcy suggests that, at least at one point in their life, the person you love got so deep in a financial hole he or she couldn’t see another way out.

In certain professions (like some areas of finance) a bankruptcy may hinder your efforts to get hired: A recent District Court ruling found that a non-government employer may choose not to hire someone based on a past bankruptcy. And, since it remains on your credit report for up to ten years, and a foreclosure for seven, it can also impact whether the two of you would be able to get a loan for a car or a house of your own someday.

What You Can Do:  Have a frank talk about the circumstances that led up to the crisis: Was it a slew of medical bills after an unexpected surgery, or pure financial irresponsibility? “Ask yourself: What was the situation, is it likely to be repeated—and are you jeopardizing your own financial well-being?” says Stephanie Kirkpatrick, LearnVest’s Director of Financial Planning.

7. You’ve Caught Him in a Lie

According to a new poll by CreditCards.com, 92% of Americans say they never hide the details of their financial lives from a significant other. But the 7% that do means that 6 million Americans are hiding something. The most common things they conceal? A credit card account (67%), a secret savings account (45%), a hidden checking account (38%) or a plain old financial secret.

Whether he’s hiding how much he makes, how much he owes, or you caught him red-handed withdrawing money from your account–true story of a friend’s ex–it can lead you to question: 1) why and 2) what else he’s concealing.

What You Can Do: Have a talk about “financial infidelity.” How honest do you expect your partner to be? Are there any money uglies in your past you need to talk about? Here’s a good guide on how to broach the topic.

The issue here isn’t so much your bottom line, but trust, which underlies the foundation of every relationship. If you catch him in a lie that shakes your belief in who he is, it can be hard to rebuild your faith in each other, let alone a solid financial future together.

8. He’s Always Borrowing … From Someone

There’s cheap. And then there’s the eternal mooch.

This is the type who’s always asking his friends to “spot him” and promising to “get them back next time.” If you’re dating, he’ll routinely forget to repay you for that time you covered dinner. And brunch. And he’s no stranger to loans from friends and family—often in the form of help from his parents.

While there aren’t many stats to prove the deleterious effects of the mooch, odds are, if you’re seeing one, you know the drawbacks well yourself. Not only does he sap your bottom line, he can also do a number on your energy. That’s because, often, a financial mooch thinks the world owes him something … or sees himself as a victim who’s unable to pay (or make) his own way.

What You Can Do: In this case, it’s worth it to have a frank talk, and tell him how his money behavior is galling you. If he’s not truly broke, and the behavior still doesn’t change, it’s time to refer him to a good therapist.

Have you dated someone who was a financial red flag? If so, tell us how you coped—and what happened.

  • Tallie

    I need advice on the above. This confirms what I’m feeling about my current relationship. I’m not sure what to do. He’s trying his best, but something just isnt working.

    Please comment. I need someone who has btdt.

    • Carrie

      Hi Tallie,
      This is Carrie from LearnVest. Thanks for sharing—and sorry to hear you’re feeling that way. 

      If you can tell us more, like what specific bad financial habits the guy you’re seeing has, we might be able to help…

    • DG82

      Hi Tallie,
      I’m an almost 30 year old woman, living in my own house, car paid off, thankfully my college education was provided for by my parents, and have very little debt. I recently started dating (who I thought) was this amazing (almost 31 yr old) guy, but over the last few weeks discovered he has debt that he’s still working on wiping out and apparently made a few wrong turns in the financial realm. He is working as a temp right now for a company and has been going back and forth on joining the airforce (but only IF he can get in w/a good job prospect) annnnd oh he’s also still living at home. Granted I try to not judge guys based on the money situation, but this guy has yet to establish himself in life in both finances and career, etc. I feel bad about it but I just let him know that at my age I’m looking for a future husband and if/when I ever do get married that I can’t foot that entire bill on my own! Sooo he’s basically taking it as I won’t date him b/c he can’t afford to marry me. I dunno… Seems like we are on the same boat Tallie, ugh… Thoughts anyone?

      • Kievjaguarr

         Please, please, please be careful!!! Tell him how you feel about money. If he walks out, you are a lucky girl because you  have not lost anything and his attitude toward you was phony.  Count your blessings, give yourself a break and start looking for another man.
        If he tells you he understands how you feel, then give him a chance, but not (please, listen to me) MONEY!!! Never ever loan money that you cannot afford to loose. Even if your boyfriend is the best lover in the world, even if you think you love him from all your heat! A real gentleman will never ask his lady for money. He will earn it; he will steal it (figurative speech), but not from his lady.

      • X x

        He sounds like he’ll be much better off with someone who appreciates him.

      • Tandee

        I think you are correct in slowing down with this guy.  You need to figure out what is/was so amazing about him, and if that was just a first impression.  You told him the truth about yourself, and I applaud you for that.  Please remember what YOU are looking for.  Your are not responsible for how he takes what you say. He is responsible for the way he takes it and for what he does about it.  YOU will be responsible if you walk into this situation that you are wondering about with your eyes wide shut.  Please don’t become one of the other commenters on this topic talking about woulda, coulda, shoulda known.  Good luck!

      • DG82

        Hi all! Well… update in case anyone was wondering. I decided it’s best we go out separate ways. I just hope that me being in that guy’s like for as brief as it was that I put a lil seed in his head to wake up and start really focusing on his goals and establishing himself in life. Excuses of the past will not get you anywhere, right… Thanks all.

    • A Pesik

      Hi Tallie,

      I’m in the same boat.  I’ve been married to a guy for 2 1/2 years and his gambling problem has gotten progressively worse.  Any advice you get can you pass on?  I’m so confused as to what to do.  I can’t afford this anymore.

      • Eklesia Jones

        Hi

        I’m sorry to hear about your situation. Gambling is a life long problem. If your husband doesn’t see a problem with it you must seriously consider your future with him. Have you visited Gamblers Anonymous or any other gambling association so you can find out about partners of addicts? Don’t go with him. Go and get advice on your own. Gambling comes from many issues the person is not facing. Is he getting help?

        Equally when money is very tight, it may be he will borrow money from a loan shark or gamble illegally becoming in debt to criminals without telling you. Gambling addiction, like drugs or alcohol is an uncontrollable impulse. They get/want more than just a ‘win’ rush out of it. Addictive personalities need support… Is he fully honest with you, do you know everything about his spending?

        His actions put you at risk because gambling can raise huge debts very quickly. So please do not underestimate the issues a long term gambler can create for you. Where will you be 10 years from now?

        So please seek professional advice from a Gamblers Support Centre near you. And please don’t leave it. You cannot solve this problem on your own. It is impossible. But with help you may find a solution and maybe even keep your marriage intact. I hope this has helped…

    • Kay

      Tallie, I was married for 25 years to a man who showed a red flag in the arena of gambling once before we got married.  We went to Vegas and he was completely swept away.  I attributed this to a new experience.. Fast forward to 10 years of marriage, he is gambling unbeknownst to me.  15 years, now I know. 25 years. Can just barely pay our bills, food is an issue.  Divorce.  It is an addiction.  RUN!

    • AldenWicker

      We’re so happy to see LearnVesters supporting each other and sharing stories about their own financial and relationship challenges. If you would like to continue this, we’ve started a discussion about this topic in LV Discussions: http://www.learnvest.com/discussions/discussion/195/are-you-dating-or-have-you-dated-a-financial-frog

      See you there!

  • Erica Johnson

    Thanks LV- noting the comments below is one reason I think your business/ site rocks!  It’s ALLLLL about emotions and money…like a big ball of sticky twine.  That’s the hardest junk to have to wade through when sorting out life.  Hang in there Tallie!

  • danielle

    I dated a serious mooch in college. While its understandable for typical college kid to not have a lot of cash to burn, this one didn’t even want to get a job until after we broke up. He quit a summer job because he thought it was beneath him and would constantly let me pay for both of our food whether it was on campus (several times a week) or Chinese (one or twice a week). What made matters worse is that he also borrowed money from me and when I knew he had extra cash from Christmas and his birthday he claimed he needed it to go out drinking and offered to pay me back in alcohol he bought “for the two of us”. Eventually I got fed up with the disrespect (he also claimed that it was okay for my parents to pay for him because apparently they have lots of money according to him). I asked him to meet me with my money and ended it.

  • Hayes

    I wish I had read this article a long time ago. I graduated college in 2009 and am currently unemployed. About a year ago I dated someone who borrowed from me heavily. He had no credit, so i agreed to open a credit card and buy things for him on the condition that he pay me back with the money he had coming in. He was also willing to get me a gift as part of the deal. Well long story short we broke up shortly thereafter, he ran off with all the goods, and is refusing to pay. I should have known. He had bad credit and would always wait until the very last moment to pay his bills, even resulting in added fees.

    • http://www.bmwysp.deviantart.com Jennifer Megan Varnadore

      Ooh….ouch. That really sucks. Women are more likely to do things like what you’ve done. You wanted to believe in a good part in someone, and help them out of a rough time. It just so happened….he wasn’t. :/

  • txsun

    I’m on the opposite side of this and
    feeling pretty awful about it.  I got in
    credit card debt way over my head (some of it due to counting on bonuses I’d
    always gotten but which disappeared after the financial crisis, but not all)
    and, on the advice of my then attorney boyfriend, filed bankruptcy.  Fast forward to today, and I’m seriously
    dating someone (about a year) and have not told him.  I’m still paying the debt each month (chapter
    13) and will be for two more years.  I
    have a good job and salary, and have never lost a job or been out of work.  Also, my existing debt is very small and I
    have no intention of going back to where I was.  I’m still not great at managing money, but I’ve
    made a lot of changes, including cutting expenses and even moving to a place where
    I don’t feel as much pressure to “keep up,” and I am really trying to get to a
    place where I have savings and a solid budget in place.  But if I were my boyfriend’s friend and he
    asked me my opinion, I’d be extremely hesitant to suggest he marry someone with
    that history.  I’m not sure how to
    approach him about it or what to say, or how to get to a place where I don’t
    feel like I have this horrible secret to keep. 
    What do you do if you are one of the frogs this article is warning about?

    • Kievjaguarr

      Txsun,
      Just find a moment when you are both in a good mood over delicious dinner cooked by you or invite him to a restaurant and after finishing the food tell him.
      Do not hide the truth from they boyfriend. How would you like to be in his shoes?
      I think this situation will show you how much he cares about you and if he is willing to help you (not financially, but to be with you and support you).

    • http://www.bmwysp.deviantart.com Jennifer Megan Varnadore

      I don’t think you’re a terrible person for having financial bad luck. You got bankrupt because you counted on something that got slipped out from under you. You probably should have been treating it like a luxury and not a “will always have” but everyone makes mistakes.

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    • Anonymous

      I don’t actually think bankruptcy is all that big of a deal.  Sadly more and more people are going this route.  I’m in the process of looking at it now.  I was unemployed twice within a 4 year period, once out of work for 9 months.  Unfortunately I had no choice but to rely on my credit cards to survive.  I’m single and I didn’t have a second income to rely on.  I used up much of my savings and when I did become employed again it was at a lower salary and I was just never able to get ahead of the credit card payments.  I’m actually looking forward to being rid of my credit card payments and to start saving again like I was before unemployment hit me.  My point is that I don’t think you should look at bankruptcy as a negative.  We all run into roadblocks in life and it sounds like you are doing a great job of handling your finances now.  I wouldn’t sweat out what someone else thinks.  It’s only your opinion and how you feel that matters.

  • Kelly

    My ex was like this…my family called him a gigolo! Thank goodness I got out of that relationship before I graduated and started my career! I heard from another one of his exes (after me) that he owes her tons of money and likely won’t ever pay her back..

    Anyways, thanks for the informative article. It’s good to know that these are worthwhile things to consider in a relationship, and that thinking about them doesn’t automatically make you a gold digger!

  • Garyallen3147@sbcglobal.net

    The red flag should have gone up when he went bankrupt and didn’t tell me until we were very serious.

  • anon

    Good list.  #4 would be my problem.  My boyfriend treats me really well, but during the six months we’ve been dating he’s walked out on two jobs (and he did it a few times before we met), and has been unemployed for most of that time.  It’s very strange to me because when he is out of a job, he’s really bummed about it, he seems to want to work.  He had good reasons for leaving, but I mean, sometimes you just have to stick it out?  I’ve stayed with some pretty awful jobs just because I needed to feed myself and pay bills.  I don’t know what to do about it… what’s a nice way of saying to someone that chronic unemployment is kind of a dealbreaker? 

    • Anon

      Run…..forget about him, he’ll work at finding someone else to mooch off of

  • Jenn

    Great list. Attitude
    towards money is so important in relationships (and one of the leading causes
    of divorce). Eventually, in some shape or form, if you’re in a relationship,
    the other party’s attitude towards money affects you and your personal finances, so observe wisely!  If you’re already married there are still
    things you can work on with your finances to always make sure your on the same
    page: http://blog.equifax.com/credit/money-management-for-a-successful-marriage/

    • Anonymous Accountant

      Having just received my Associates Degree in accounting, I find myself with a guy who has filed bankruptcy twice, has already spent over $100 eating out this month, pays bills late, and I now find he’s buying videos and hiding them from me. He already owns hundreds but insists on buying more. This is a 44 yr old “man” who was living with his parents and doesn’t even own a bed. I complain about his spending and he says money’s just green paper…it’s not that important. I lost my job 3 months ago but I am expected to still pay car insurance for both of us (because with his credit and driving history, his rate would have been astronomical) my credit card bill (some of which he contributed to), my own Rx insurance, my doctor and my gas out of the $95 I receive each week.  He insists on controlling every aspect of my life but refuses to help me pay any of these bills, but can afford to spend $100 eating out and buying unnecessary item. It’s very infuriating when you can’t even discuss the issue.  We were engaged but I called it off. After seeing how horribly he manages money, I cannot see how we would ever get anywhere in life. Now he’s talking about going back to college himself.  I’m not sure where he expects that money to come from, but I’m looking forward to getting a decent job and moving on. I don’t need anyone to control my finances for me. People truly have to be honest about their financial situation and be on the same page when it comes to spending. Spending frivolously when you can’t pay your bills is just plain irresponsible and it’s definitely a deal-breaker in this case.

  • kacie47

    Hi,

    An important element I would like to share is that I believe there is another red flag when your partner never wants to do a little extra for you (but allows you to go the extra mile for him/her occasionally). 

    I am 100% about budgeting and love your website and articles!  I also believe in budgeting so there can be moments of doing something special for each other. 

    We never took vacations, our honeymoon was a trip to see his parents (which was my first red flag), and if we went out to eat, other than fast food, it always required a coupon.  Sadly, after 25 years of marriage (and many other issues), we recently divorced.

    We are both professional people, so it wasn’t a matter of not knowing.  It was, however, a matter of not caring.

    Thanks for allowing me to share.

  • http://www.bmwysp.deviantart.com Jennifer Megan Varnadore

    My fiance has past credit card debt, but he’s not accruing more. He just hasn’t paid off that past part. IT’s not a horrendously large amount either, only about a thousand or two. I have past medical bills that probably add up to more than his past debt combined. I’m not too worried about it all. I see a possible financial windfall in my future in the form of a possibly bright career future. I’m going into a career that will never go out of style. Criminal Justice.

  • Casggp

     ”He doesn’t want to get married” might have saved me more than him.  My on-and-off again finally shared this conclusion (didn’t clue me in until a couple years after he made the decision – when I thought everything was going well and we live in different cities so even harder to look for flags). 

    In retrospect it’s probably for the better since we’re older (35 & 42) and set in our ways and in different places in life – me never married or kids, he has 2 tweens (each in a different state).  He’s looking forward to retirement and grandkids and I’m just looking forward to settling down. 

    I see it as a positive (have to now) because being married would involve all future vacations based only on his kids, us having to buy their cars, phones, put them through college, etc. and all happening real soon.  I know it sounds horrible on my part, but he’s just trying to buy their love because we do share similar views but he has the “absent father guilt”.

    It’s unfortunate because we do deeply love each other (we stay in touch) but just didn’t have the fortune to meet at the right time in life —- as college students would have been ideal.

  • Eklesia Jones

    Bankruptcy is a necessary financial resource which should not be used to destroy a person’s life. Creditors can refuse to renegotiate payments and so force bankruptcy. Equally many people avoid bankruptcy because family bail them out or they have one asset to sell. They are not any more financially ‘competent’ than someone who has filed, yet they get away untarnished.

    In a relationship a woman can be vulnerable to bankruptcy if her partner files. She can end up bankrupt by default. This happened to a friend of mine. Her partner spent money without monitoring it. He had an advance on the mortgage which she thought was safe, but when she went to the bank it had all gone. She still doesn’t know on what. She knows he took all the money from her daughter’s piggy bank then denied it or ‘forgot’ to tell her. Then she fell ill and lost all control of finances – he refused to share account details, refused any form of financial planning or budgeting and then when she challenged him, he blamed her attitude. I remember being there when she asked him to check his account for mobile phone bill payments. He argued saying it was too much hassle, then refused to speak to her for days. Her illness caused some financial problems for them both as he liked her to earn more money than he did and found it a strain to become the breadwinner. Then they both had to file. However they did not come out of this situation in the same boat. He still had a job and a bank account and she had nothing. He had carefully maneuvered this to leave her dependent on his ‘charity’ as she says of it.

    I learned the following from her situation. TEST — if you doubt what’s going on create a project together and then get him to manage the money. Does he talk to you about it? Give him say $100 or whatever. Do you see what he bought, does he tell you? Is he willing or even able to create a budget then you can talk about? Can you change anything on it? If the answer is no, then you will end up in serious financial trouble if you date him.

  • Wirunner8

    I’ve been married to a financial frog for over twenty years. The first sign was that he had nothing to show for all his years of hard work. He was twenty-six with no down payment for a home, a junkie truck, and no savings. He was a big talker but couldn’t put a financial plan on paper. He would bounce checks all the time and it was if other people’s money was pretend and he didn’t feel the guilt when he didn’t pay them back. He would just borrow more. Look for signs of success when dating. Does he save? Pay his bills? Drive a decent car? Have and keep a good job? Does he respect money? Too late for me but and it’s wrecked our marriage. We just filed bankruptcy.

  • UncommonCommonSense

    A) If someone files bankruptcy, it can frequently be beyond their control. Think natural disaster that wipes away a business and your customers. I had zero debt (still do), paid for car (not sure about the “junkie truck” comment (sure sign that the commenter may have an unhealthy association with material goods) as I also drive a 10 year old PAID FOR vehicle that is is perfect shape w/ low miles as I drove a company car for the previous 14 years before I was laid off in October. I am under a non-compete contract until next year and took a very nice severance package though I live by the book The Automatic Millionaire thus have tried to get ANY and all jobs for the last 7 months and I am either over qualified (very technical business) or non-compete comes into play. I have never been unemployed in 30 years  (been working since I was 16 and always lived well below my means so illogical comment.
    This article is stupid. Read a good financial book like Before You Say I Do or Smart Couples Finish Rich. My Ex made plenty of money and shared expensed while he wined and dined me and then zilch. Never paid a dime for anything. He moved into my home, refused to sell his ended up renting it and when we went to the bank to refinance it to make renting it possible, the banker reviewed his bank statements and asked me how I thought he would qualify as he was spending 100% of what he made drinking and partying and paying his bills, saving nothing. People need to learn to quit consuming and buying unnecessary “things’. Get your facts straight. Couples should discuss every aspect of finances prior to accepting a proposal and if either partner doesn’t stick to the deal, it’s a deal breaker. 

  • Mk

    I don’t agree with the bankruptcy statement, especially since I was the one who encouraged my fiance to file. He was left with a crazy amount of debt from his divorce (and an ex wife who took credit cards, cellphones, etc out in his name) and I did not want us to be spending the first few years of our married life paying off her debt. He makes good money and surprisingly enough, works in the financial segment (as do I) so we are both good with money, but most of his paycheck was going to his ex’s bills. It seemed like the right thing to do, and neither of us regret it. The mortgage and auto loan are in my name and we can actually use his paycheck to save for the wedding, take his kids to disney, pay down student loan debt, make extra mortgage payments, etc. For him and for our relationship, bankruptcy was the light at the end of the tunnel.

  • Collateral Dammage

    I dated a financial red flag.  He was such a sweet guy, but he lied about anything financial because, I think, he was so embarrased by his average or low income.  He had finer taste in clothes and was always generous with me, but he was trying to buy happiness for himself and those around him.  At one point, I confronted him about a turn-off notice on the electric bill (I’d been paying him my half all along.) and he got upset and confessed other bills he was behind on.  Eventually, I just couldn’t take it anymore.  I felt that I couldn’t count on this individual to finance his own expensive penchant for stuff to fill the big, empty space in his life.  The worst thing is I couldn’t trust him because he could rarely be honest about what he had done or where he actually was, financially.  So, I was always being surprised with more evidence of his irresponsibility.  One time he took his mother to lunch and wrote a check he knew would bounce.  I couldn’t believe the idiocy of that.  After we’d been apart for three years, I found out he’d gotten an American Express card in my name when we were dating and (of course) he ran it up and didn’t pay his bills.  My credit was dinged!  I had to insist they close the account and I called him and encouraged him to pay the bill, which I believe he did.  I think this caused my husband and I to get a higher interest rate on our first home loan.  Be super careful with a person who is not forthright financially.  It causes collateral damage and anyone nearby is in the fallout range.

  • LB

    I’ve been on both sides of this coin: The one dating the mooch (and several of the other red flags, lol) and the one with financial troubles.

    I agree with a comment that someone else made…a true man will do almost ANYTHING besides ask the woman he is dating for money (especially if it is a new relationship).

    As a graduate student, I agreed to “help” out an ex and he paid me back consistently, but it was all a plot to encourage me to let my guard down.  He began to request to borrow (via credit cards) more and more money and eventually stopped paying me back.  We had a signed contract and I even purchased a receipt book to document transactions, but at the end of the day…I was left alone and in a LOT of debt. *This also goes for family members…oh do I have stories.

    Most of my mistakes were a result of being young and ignorant about wise money decisions and now I am 2.5 years post-bankruptcy with a substantial amount of student loan debt.

    I am now (28 and) MUCH better at managing money (I actually wasn’t bad at money management, but TERRIBLE about lending money I did not have believing that people would repay me).  My credit score is pretty good, but I still have a bankruptcy that I am nursing.

    I would like perspectives on dating someone with substantial student loan debt, if anyone has thoughts/comments/suggestions.

    I hope this helps at least one person because I wish I had this site and/or a money mentor during college, etc. to help me identify wise and non-wise decisions.
     

  • Salu Alu

    I have been dating a guy for just over a month, I really really like him, things were going fine and then he became distant and completely different, last week I confronted him about it and I was about to break it off when he told me that he has a gambling problem and he is seeking help, he told me that it’s a difficult time for me and he doesn’t want to push me away. I don’t know what to do. I feel as if I need to be there for me cos I have developed strong feelings for him in such a little time!! Help please

    • Anonymous

       Well he’s seeking help so that’s good.  Maybe you can help him through it by giving him a needed distraction to keep him away from gambling.

  • turtis

     I was crushed when my lover of three years left to be with another man. I cried and sobbed every day, until it got so bad that I reached out to the Internet for help. I threw away so much money – all for nothing – until I hit on the real thing. And that is him therapist Oniha. He is different from all the rest – he is the diamond in the rough. Thank him from the depths of my soul! I am extremely happy now. I hope God blesses you as much as He has blessed me. Thank you once again THERAPIST ONIHA FROM THE winexbackspell@gmail.com

  • ella

     
    This is a testimony that i will tell to every one to hear. i have been married four 4years and on the fifth year of my marriage, another woman had a spell to take my lover away from me and my husband left me and the kids and we have suffered for 2years until i met a post where this man Dr Sango  have helped someone and i decided to give him a try to help me bring my lover back home and believe me i just send my picture to him and that of my husband and after 48hours as he have told me, i saw a car drove into the house and behold it was my husband and he have come to me and the kids and that is why i am happy to make every one of you in similar to met with this man and have your lover back to your self. His email:  sangospelltemple@gmail.com

  • AUSTINE

     My MUM was always the person I turned to when I needed something. It was her advice I counted on, and her that I talked to about my most needful things. She died 3 months ago, and at first I was so lost without her I did not think I could function. But then I found DR dr.tubeHe has filled that empty hole in my heart from the loss of my mother. I can turn to him for guidance and spiritual advice. He is always available and he always cares. Itâs not about money for him. Even better, I finally asked him to perform a love spell on me, and it worked!! I met a man who had also experienced a great loss and we were able to become close friends and provide support to each other. We have fallen in love and my life could not be better. Thank you, DR dr.tubefor helping me through the worst times of my life, for being such a great spell caster, and for giving me a love spell that has brought me so much joy. If you doubt his ability, trust me. You should take a chance. It pays off in ways you could never even imagine. Email him at:goodspelltemple@gmail.com…CAN NEVER STOP TALKING ABOUT YOU SIR HIS EMAIL ADDRESS IS:goodspelltemple@gmail.com CONTACT HIM NOW FOR SOLUTION TO ALL YOUR PROBLEMS

  • cindy

     
    My situation was hopeless me and my husband was on the verge of divorce. I was in a awful state and felt that I was not able to cope with life any longer. I found  wiseindividualspell@gmail.com and tried him. Well, he did return and now we are doing well again, more than ever before. Thank you so much wiseindividualspell@gmail.com i will forever be grateful to you.

  • Barbara

     I  want to appreciate thegreatoracleltemple@gmail.com for bringing my boyfriend back to me.  I am living with my boyfriend now and we are getting married in 2 month time.  I just wanted to thank you for all your help and support. You are wonderful spell caster……Barbara

  • sara

    Advice desperatly needed. Married for almost ten years, with 2 children 5 and under. Red flags before marriage were undisclosed debt, check fraud, bank account overdrafts etc, which weren’t know to me until we tried to buy a house together. He hasn’t had the same job for more than 2 years, but always has one. I recently became unemployed and he wants to use our savings to pay the morgtage and not his paycheck (btw, I didn’t see a dime of his paycheck for the last 6 months I paid all the bills and spent the last 6 years getting us out of debt).  I have no money coming in right now and can’t afford a divorce or even know if I want one.  Talking about money has always been a sore point for us and always results in fighting.  I’m so tired I feel like he holds us back and I would be in a much better place right now if I hadn’t married him.  Just not sure what to do..can’t afford two kids and all the bills with no job now and no way to go school..so I’m kinda stuck.

    • Guest

       Sorry to hear you are having troubles.  First of all, I’m a little concerned about the check fraud you mentioned, but nothing you can do about that now.  I don’t know what kind of line of work your husband is in or the circumstances that he’s changing jobs under.  It’s fairly common to change jobs more frequently in IT and some other areas.  Is it because he gets fired or chooses to leave on his own? 

      So where is his money going if it’s not going to help the bills?  I’d be concerned about that.  Do you think he’s hoarding the money somewhere?  Gambling or drug problem?  If it were me I’d insist that he start contributing to the bills.  Those are his kids too so he should be helping to support them.  I might even start taking what money I could get my hands on and hiding it from him in the event you decide to leave. Sounds like he’s already doing this.  Aren’t you getting unemployment?  To be honest it sounds like you guys need either some marital counseling or financial counseling, maybe both.  Part of marriage is sharing the financial responsibilites and it doesn’t sound like he’s living up to his share.  I’d bee seriously looking at what he’s doing with his paycheck and where the money is going.  Good luck to you,

  • Paulpaol

    I never knew people still have powers and make things happen in a twinkle of an eye. my name is sandra leeks, am from american. my boyfriend harry scot left me for another girl for three months’ ever since then my life have been filled with pains, sorrow and heart break because he was my first love who dis virgin me when i was 21 years old about two years ago. A friend of mine, kido mathew told me he saw some testimonies of this great Dr okudu that he can bring back my lover within some few days. i laugh it out and said i am not interested but because of the love my friend had for me, she consulted the great priest on my behalf and to my greatest suprise after four days my boyfriend called me for the very first time after three months that he is missing me badly and that he is so sorry for every thing he made me went through. i still can’t believe it, because it just too real to be real. Thank you Dr okudu for bringing back my lover and also to my lovely friend who interceded on my behalf, for any one who might need the help of this great priest here is the email address: okudutemple@gmail.com.a great spell caster.

  • lartiv

     
    Yeah deep down inside my heart with gratitude to Therapist Oniha,i
    sincerely want to say thanks to him for his wonderful spell casting that
    brings back my wife,who suddenly lost interest in me after 9month of
    engagement,but today we are happily married with kids and we are more
    happier than never before,my special thanks goes out to him and rest
    viuwers in this blog and his Oracle for his help,i can never stop
    thanking this sent helper for his help toward me,he is the best for me
    the best thank him from his Email for me winexbackspell@gmail.com for
    building my home.

  • JOHNSONJAMES

     My name is Johnson. I wish to share my testimonies with the general public about what this man has just done for me , this man has just brought back my lost family to me with his great spell,for what you have done for me, if you are out there passing through this same kind of problems you can contact him today on his email address  dudu_magic_temple@yahoo.com   or on his web site  http://www.dudumagictemple.wbs.com …Once again thank you for your good work?

    dudu_magic_temple@yahoo.com
    http://www.dudumagictemple.webs.com

  • Almightyjujutemple

     ”My girlfriend recently left me and I was completely blown away, I was
    depressed, emotional and my self-esteem was gone. I reacted like most of
    us do by begging, arguing, pressing and trying to convince her to come
    back and things would be different. I was being ruled by my emotions. 
    With the help of Almightyjujutemple@gmail.com, I was able to get her
    back in my life. Thanks again!!”

     Christian Root

  • Lisa

    Hi. I am a 25 year old woman with a job I love, which pays not a lot but enough to cover my rent and living, and also maybe one present to myself every two months or so (new shoes, a bag, a fancy dinner). My boyfriend is serially unemployed, but I know that’s because he hates his field, and he is slowly but surely doing the right things to switch fields. The problem is this: I am not into high-paying jobs where there’s no satisfaction; I had planned my job so that I could secure a basic life with the occasional luxury thrown in. Now that I’m with him, I am retaining my own shared room because I have all my old stuff there, but I live with him, so I pay my rent and now that he’s unemployed I pay half of his as well. I also pay for half the necessities but all the luxuries. Even eating out or going to watch a movie are too expensive for him, but I want to do these things in moderation, the way I like (I’m no spendthrift myself, I’m very careful). So I pay for dinners out, travel and big expenses like new blankets for the winter, etc. It took me a while, but I don’t grudge these expenses because I live with him and we share EVERYthing, and he’s never being reluctant to share anything. But now if I want to get a nice haircut or buy a much-needed pair of shoes, or go watch an expensive concert, I can’t because I know he’ll be offended and sad, and maybe he’ll hate me for it later. How do I explain that my life plan involves me paying for myself so that I can do as I like? 

    We want to get married in the next two years or so. He says that he wants to be a real feminist and would be happy to be the stay at home dad while I work. I don’t want this. I can’t imagine being forced to give up any little financial pleasures all my life. why can’t he see that we both need to share the responsibility of putting bread on the table, just like we both will share the work in raising our kids. He’s a really nice guy, I love him so, but his ideas are so not like mine! Can I buy stuff for myself or go to expensive places without him and not feel guilty or make him feel like crap?

    • Suzanne

      You need to be with someone that will make you happy. If he insists on being a stay at home father and you do not want this, then obviously he will not make you happy. Wouldn’t you rather be with someone who wants to build the kind of life with you that you want to build with him? Wouldn’t it be nice if you both could agree and feel happy when you think about your future together? After all, your future will be completely meshed if you marry. Your destiny: “Honey, I wouldn’t dream of making you work while I stay home with the kids.” NOT your destiny: “But honey, I LIKE to watch tv and munch on popcorn and be a big kid right along with the kids! I’m not ready to grow up yet!” Do you want a husband that will be whining right along with the kids when you come home? Obviously not. Face the music.

      It’s not about luxury. You said yourself that you chose a profession that interested you even though it was not a high-paying profession. You say that your fiance is doing the same thing. However, he has told you that he has something else in mind. Don’t you think him changing fields is just a show for you to marry him? If he is so unsatisfied working, don’t you picture him getting unmotivated and laid-off again? Excuses, excuses, you may never see the end of them. Get a real man, while you still can!

  • kimberlyc33

    The man I dated before I met my husband.  He had said he just went through a divorce & was living with his Dad.  The truth, he was divorced 3 years before and was not paying his child support.  We would take the kids out and he would throw around money when he had it.  He would sleep over my house, leave early for work then would borrow from me.  Turned out he was only going back to his dad’s to sleep.  every time we talked about needing more money his idea was for me to get another job. This all finally came to a head, the lies, the excuses & when I confronted him for the last time he pulled out a knife, stabbed my dog then came after me.  I talked him out of the house, called the police and while they did come they also let him into my home to get his things because apparently in NY if you let a person keep personal items in your dwelling, even if you own it, they have the right to enter.  ladies, never kid yourselves that people can change that much.  At first I felt bad for him but he was just a master manipulator. Lesson learned.

  • Not fair to guys

    “He”???? Really?  Sorry.  I was a teacher for 34 years.  Never had credit card debt.  Credit rating of 805.  Built most of a house with my own two hands.  I married a woman who bailed when I needed surgery.  I had great health insurance and still pail all my bills.  I work out and am kind.  Why don’t you use the word “She”.  This list is rather sexist and not fair.

  • Brittanie

    Hi, my problem isn’t exactly this .. but pretty close to it. My fiance and I have been together for nearly 17 months and we are currently living an hour and 45 minutes apart from eachother. It was very hard for him to get a job in the first place because he is a felon. And due to the lack of money, we can only see eachother about once a month. He does now have a low income job, though it should help a little, it’s not at all because every day after work, he decides he wants to go to the store and spend and he will find the silliest things to spend on. He still lives at home with his mother and doesn’t have to pay any bills so he has not yet learned the responsibility of money. I on the other hand, have been paying bills since I was able to work. We have grown up very differently. Though I have paid bills before, I have also had many things handed to me over the years. And he can hardly say he’s ever had a good Christmas as far as presents go since he was young. I am just concerned that our relationship is not going to go any further due to his lack of responsibility. This may be more of a problem than just having to do with money .. but I’m hoping you can help in some way.

    • LB

       I would recommend that you run.  He does not seem ready to be married and the financial burden will end up falling on you.  I was young and in love (and engaged twice) and ending it was the best thing that I coud ever do.  One that I “loved” left me with several thousands of dollars in debt…and he made payments but never enough to catch up just enough to shut me up.  I will pray for you because I know it is a tough decision, but it is better to be equally yoked. You will resent him and yourself if you allow yourself to be drained financially and he not contribute.

  • miss rose

    I lost my 4 years marriega during June. My husband left me with so many pains and since then i have been heart broken and shattered. I have contact 6 spell casters and 2 of them has rip me off my money without any result. I have emailed so many sites online looking for a good spell caster till i was directed by a 26 years old woman to AYELALA SHRINE At first i never believed him because he was requesting for some amount of money to buy items, it took him three weeks to convince me and something occur to mind and i said let me give him a trial.I was very shocked when Ruben called four days after i sent Prophet Osuls the items money. He apologies for all he has done wrong and i am very happy that we are together today because he proposed to me last night. I will advise you contact Email: ayelalashrine@gmail.com María
     

  • Galina

    I want to say that my lover left me in 2012. During 3months I have contacted many casters and bought almost ten spells without results. My ex wouldn’t contact me, wouldn’t answer my calls and emails. But I never lost hope because I knew we were soul mates. Dr. Lee cast the most wonderful spell for me and within 3days i got my result and since 2 weeks ago and everything has changed since then. We are close to each other again and he is calling me many times everyday. Thank you Dr. Lee, your help is very appreciated! I will keep in touch. Ancientfathersandmothers@gmail.com

  • http://www.facebook.com/victoria.cole.927758 Victoria Cole

    Thanks to Esango Priest, after reading the post of Debby,Dave and Constance,about how Esango Priest help them get back their jobs and Lovers, I quickly wrote him and explained how Scott abandoned me on May 14th for another lady and wanted him back, Esango Priest said I should not worry anymore and he assure me he’s gonna be back to me in 48hrs if he could get some items in the market to cast the spell, I wait patiently and he got back to me after he got the items and went to the mountain, the Next day at 7pm Scott came to my door step and knelt down, I open the door and I was shocked so I let him in and he said he will never ignore me again, we had sex that night, I was so happy and tried telling Esango Priest about this success but he said all he wanted was for me to share the testimony and let people know how real this is, People all over the world Esango Priest is someone I can recommend and testify am a living witness of this. You can contact him via email for any kind of spell.
    esangopriest@hotmail.com.

  • fleurdelys

    Been married to a guy for 6 years – he’s been unemployed for 90% of that time – I pay for everything. He expects everything. I now have given him an ultimatum – he has to provide a certain amount per month – 3 months on and he has come up with about half of what he should be contributing. He owes me for many things, laptop, motorbike and masses more etc etc. I have said that he should not use the truck as he is not entitled – he has a motorbike – but he insists on asking every other day always with a good excuse or he uses the fact that he will be “running an errand for me” in order to persuade me that he needs the convenience of a car. I am tearing my hair out, I am becoming ill, I can no longer think straight. I have tried to get rid of him but its not easy as he has no shame and is petrified to lose me – his security and financial cushion. Unfortunately I am not in my own country and have no one to turn to. Its a very macho society here and also slightly dangerous for a female to live on her own…..but probably no more dangerous than being married to someone that takes advantage every single day of the year!! When I write this I cannot believe that I, as an intelligent independent and decisive person, has ended up in this mess. What happened? How did I get the wool pulled over my eyes so very thoroughly?

  • kara

    AMAZING person sent from
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  • JOYCE

    I agree with the man of power obasspiritualtemple@gmail.com someone need my testimony,in 2011 everything that i was doing it was failure at work my career i was crying the course i was doing i fail so my life was in mess but i thank Dr obas for that because it was preparing me a new level in life my pain is not like other and my suffering is not like other i thank Dr obas i am strong now and i am happy thank you Dr obas

  • TexMex

    you are so sexist wow

    • Christian

      I want to use this opportunity to tell DR.OLOKUN of solution ground, that i am very grateful for helping me get back my lover’ after he abandoned me for good six months with pains and tears in my heart. i am Addison from united states. my boyfriend before the break up usually insult and see nothing good in any thing i do, i felt as if i was cursed. my friends advice me to let go but i couldn’t because of the love i have for him. which was so strong and could even move ten mountains in a speed of light. after two days of my contact with DR.OLOKUN my boyfriend came back with apologies and love that he had never show me before. right now he doesn’t insult me any more rather he tells me how pretty and wonderfully made i am by God each morning. one thing i love about DR.OLOKUN, is that he is so accommodating and free.you can still call him. priestolokun@yahoo.com tel.+2348182743275.CATHERINE

  • Queency

    When my boyfriend left me for another woman all I could think about was getting him back. I was not out of the closet to my family and had lived a straight lifestyle my entire life until recently. My boyfriend cheated on me and moved out of my house when I was away at work. I came home to a letter that didn’t even make sense. I had a love spell cast by Ancientspiritualtemple@gmail.com and within three (3) days he was at my doorstep once again. I was so relieved!! Him coming back to me gave me the strength to tell my family about us and the time we spent apart really brought us closer together than we ever have been! I highly recommend his love spells because they work very well!

  • Christian

    HELLO EVERYONE

    i just want to say a big thank you to DR.OLOKUN for what he has done for me,He brought back the man i loved and cherish with all my heart,A man who left me for another woman for good 3 years,with 2 kids,i just decided to check some spell caster’s But all kept deceiving me,Until i meant DR.OLOKUN,Who told me everything will be over i taught he was also a scam,until he told me that my ex will be back in 2 days time.Am so grateful today that my ex is back to me and we are happy and he always wanna be by my side,I will advice you people not to fall in the wrong hands but to contact DR.OLOKUN who his trustworthy and straight forward,You can contact him via priestolokun@yahoo.com tel.+2347051841955.Christian

  • http://www.facebook.com/micheal.wisdom.127 Micheal Wisdom

    WONDERFUL WORK OF Dr Papa77

    i want to use this opportunity to tell Dr PAPA77 of love
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    my husband before the break up usually insult and see nothing good in
    any
    thing i do, i felt as if i was cursed. my friends advised me to let go
    but i couldn’t because of the love i have for him. which was so strong
    and could even move ten mountains in a speed of light. after two days of
    my contact with Dr PAPA77 my husband came back with apologies
    and love that he had never show me before. right now he doesn’t insult
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    one thing i love about Dr PAPA77 , is that he is so accommodating
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  • Edwina Lorres

    Life can be very displeasing especially when we loose the ones we love and cherish so much. in this kind of situation where one loses his/her soul mate there are several dangers engage in it. one may no longer be able to do the things he was doing before then success will be very scarce and happiness will be rare. that person was created to be with you for without him things may fall apart.
    That was my experience late last year. but thank god today i am happy with him again. all thanks to DR AKPAKPA, i was nearly loosing hope until i saw an article on how DR AKPAKPA could cast a love spell to make lovers come back. There is no harm in trying, i said to my self. i contacted him via email: afiamensolutionshrine@yahoo.com. words will not be enough to appreciate what he has done for me. i have promised to share the good news as long as i live.