Is Warren Buffett Right About Taxing the Rich?

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Warren BuffettWarren Buffett has enthusiastically broken the money talk taboo with his recent op-ed in the New York Times, which details exactly how much he paid in taxes last year.

“Last year my federal tax bill … was $6,398,744. That sounds like a lot of money. But what I paid was only 17.4 percent of my taxable income—and that’s actually a lower percentage than was paid by any of the other 20 people in our office. Their tax burdens … averaged 36 percent,” the Berkshire Hathaway chairman and chief executive wrote.

The point Buffett was trying to make was that it is absurd that he—the third-richest man in the world, with an estimated fortune of $50 billion—is taxed at a lower percentage than the employees working in his office.

His proposal? Start taxing the mega-rich.

“My friends and I have been coddled long enough by a billionaire-friendly Congress,” he concluded. “It’s time for our government to get serious about shared sacrifice.”

Democrats Back Buffett

Buffett’s idea differs from President Obama’s proposition, which would levy increased taxes on individuals making more than $200,000. Buffett, in contrast, only wants to raise the income and investment tax rates of those making more than $1 million, who in 2009 represented just 0.2% of tax returns.

Regardless, the President—and other Democrats—received Buffett’s proposal with enthusiasm.

On Monday night in Iowa, one stop on his three-day bus tour of the Midwest, Obama’s reference to Buffett’s call for Congress to “stop coddling billionaires” was met with big applause.

Presidential spokesman Jay Carney also cited Buffet during his briefing with the White House press corps yesterday morning, and the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee posted a link to the op-ed under the heading “Important message.”

Numerous Twitter users have also praised Buffett, hailing him as a hero.

Some Find Fault With Buffett’s Tax

Not everyone agrees with Buffett’s call to end coddling. In a Forbes opinion piece published today, Peter J. Reilly points out that the job of wealthy people is to “allocate capital.”

“What happens if we tax Warren Buffett more?” Reilly asks. “There will be less capital.” Instead, he (with a hint of tongue-in-cheek humor) suggests taxing people like Jennifer Aniston, who enjoy a high-income but do not hold nearly as much net worth as Buffett.

Beyond finding fault with Buffett’s proposal, some conservative bloggers and commentators believe his op-ed merely represents a ploy or gimmick to drum up support for increasing middle-class taxes. Pat Buchanan, a commentator on MSNBC, went so far as to challenge Buffett to donate to the federal government.

Brad Dayspring, a spokesman for Virginia Representative and House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, concurred on Twitter: “If Warren Buffett wants to pay more taxes and send more of his money to Washington, why doesn’t he just do it?”

Republicans, for their part, have remained steadfast in their opposition of tax increases. Congressman Kevin Brady firmly rejected Buffett’s proposal.

“There is not a serious solution for deficit control or getting this dismal economy on its feet,” Brady said. “Economic growth does not follow a tax increase. So as much as I respect Mr. Buffett, his proposal fails on virtually every level.”

Would It Work?

Ignoring whether Buffett’s tax proposal would actually pass in Congress, estimations from the Joint Committee on Taxation, the Congressional Budget Office and the Treasury reveal that a tax increase for millionaires, hedge fund managers and income from capital gains and dividends would indeed regenerate as much as $500 billion in 10 years.

This represents a third of what the Congressional committee has been charged to cut from the deficit. It’s a start, but it’s less than 5% of the new debt the country is expected to incur in the next decade—a drop in the national debt bucket.

Do you agree with Warren Buffett? Is it fair to stop coddling the mega-rich and start levying heavier taxes? Let us know what you think in the comments below.

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  • Lyn

    Nothing is keeping Mr. Buffett from writing a check for whatever amount he wants to pay above his tax amount and sending it to the IRS.  The government has always accepted “contributions.”

    • http://profiles.google.com/wscoggins Wendy Scoggins

      Buffet’s point was not that he personally wanted contribute more to the government, but that taxes should be distributed fairly and equally to everyone. It isn’t “shared sacrifice” if the tax burden is placed on those who have less or the least to tax, and lowest on those whose incomes are highest.

  • Kats

    I absolutely agree with Mr. Buffett with one exception … I think the tax increase should start at a lower point.  If not the $200,000 the president has recommended, perhaps.  It’s absurd that with an income well under $100,000, I am taxed at a rate double that of a billionaire such as he.  I applaud him for taking this stand.  … and I promise you that if I am ever in a position of making such an income, I will happily pay more than those much less than I.  Moreover I will also make charitible contributions in excess of the 10% I have already committed to.  How much money does any person/family need to live comfortably and even to insure their security?  When did we become so fearful and greedy?

  • Kats

    I absolutely agree with Mr. Buffett with one exception … I think the tax increase should start at a lower point.  If not the $200,000 the president has recommended, perhaps.  It’s absurd that with an income well under $100,000, I am taxed at a rate double that of a billionaire such as he.  I applaud him for taking this stand.  … and I promise you that if I am ever in a position of making such an income, I will happily pay more than those much less than I.  Moreover I will also make charitible contributions in excess of the 10% I have already committed to.  How much money does any person/family need to live comfortably and even to insure their security?  When did we become so fearful and greedy?

  • Kats

    I absolutely agree with Mr. Buffett with one exception … I think the tax increase should start at a lower point.  If not the $200,000 the president has recommended, perhaps.  It’s absurd that with an income well under $100,000, I am taxed at a rate double that of a billionaire such as he.  I applaud him for taking this stand.  … and I promise you that if I am ever in a position of making such an income, I will happily pay more than those much less than I.  Moreover I will also make charitible contributions in excess of the 10% I have already committed to.  How much money does any person/family need to live comfortably and even to insure their security?  When did we become so fearful and greedy?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=520890694 Kyra Morris

    the trouble is that the rich have no reason to spend their money and the rest of us have to. there’s no incentive for them to invest other than making more money, tax free or not, while the rest of us make so little that nearly all our money is in the system, whether we like it or not. Reilly still hasn’t caught on to what even Bernanke finally admitted a while ago : there is NO invisible hand.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=520890694 Kyra Morris

    the trouble with buffet sending extra money on his own is that without legislation to designate where that amount of money is going, there’s no reason to believe it won’t go up in smoke. or to $60,000 toilet seats.

  • Tracy

    This is nothing new about 4 years ago Warren Buffett found out his assistant payed more income tax than he did (%).  He then went and offered 1 Million dollars if any one of the very rich could prove that they paid more income tax than their assistant (again %).  No one came forward.

  • http://profiles.google.com/anime.geek.girl Delirium .

    I don’t agree with Mr. Buffett, because I don’t agree to anything that gives the government more tax revenue.  They’ve proved they can’t handle our money responsibly and the solution isn’t to give them more.

    • FL

      Oh really, the government can’t handle money responsibly?  How about the huge American corporations that were handed free money from the government in the bailouts a few years ago.  Looks like these companies royally mishandled their finances and actually propelled our economy into the state it is in now.  Now that companies are beginning to profit, they want tax cuts.  Tax-payers should not have bailed out banks and major corporations.  Raise taxes for wealthy individuals and corporations, the only thing that is trickling down is the sewage right now.

      • gretchen

        What do you think would happen if corporate taxes were increased? The cost would be passed down to the consumers. So if Wal-Mart had to pay more in taxes, then taxes on the poor and middle class (the people that usually shop there) would be effectively increased.

    • FL

      Oh really, the government can’t handle money responsibly?  How about the huge American corporations that were handed free money from the government in the bailouts a few years ago.  Looks like these companies royally mishandled their finances and actually propelled our economy into the state it is in now.  Now that companies are beginning to profit, they want tax cuts.  Tax-payers should not have bailed out banks and major corporations.  Raise taxes for wealthy individuals and corporations, the only thing that is trickling down is the sewage right now.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1627186665 Beverly McGlynn Hobbs

    I thank Mr. Buffett for putting forth his argument.  If the people in the middle and lower classes had more of their salaries to spend, it would be on groceries, consumer goods, and other items that contribute to the economy.  At a level that Mr. Bufffett earns, the funds go into investments, employing no one, and making more money taxed at a lower level.  We need more money circulating in the stores, not in investment funds. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1627186665 Beverly McGlynn Hobbs

    I thank Mr. Buffett for putting forth his argument.  If the people in the middle and lower classes had more of their salaries to spend, it would be on groceries, consumer goods, and other items that contribute to the economy.  At a level that Mr. Bufffett earns, the funds go into investments, employing no one, and making more money taxed at a lower level.  We need more money circulating in the stores, not in investment funds. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1627186665 Beverly McGlynn Hobbs

    I thank Mr. Buffett for putting forth his argument.  If the people in the middle and lower classes had more of their salaries to spend, it would be on groceries, consumer goods, and other items that contribute to the economy.  At a level that Mr. Bufffett earns, the funds go into investments, employing no one, and making more money taxed at a lower level.  We need more money circulating in the stores, not in investment funds. 

  • Planetheaven

    Yes he’s right!!!

  • Planetheaven

    Yes he’s right!!!

  • Planetheaven

    Yes he’s right!!!

  • Danie

    If we want an egalitarian society then taxes should be part of that. There is no reason why the burnt of the burden fall to those with less. In terms of our government not handling our money correctly (and it is OUR money) that is an entirely different issue that must also be addressed. To say otherwise is to employ the either or fallacy.

    They need to make the tax code equal AND spend wisely and prudently.

  • Danie

    If we want an egalitarian society then taxes should be part of that. There is no reason why the burnt of the burden fall to those with less. In terms of our government not handling our money correctly (and it is OUR money) that is an entirely different issue that must also be addressed. To say otherwise is to employ the either or fallacy.

    They need to make the tax code equal AND spend wisely and prudently.

  • kristi

    i’d like to see something simple like FLAT rates such as 10% for income under 200,000 and 20% for all above that, i’d also like to see an individual per person tax which would help to considerably slow our overpopulation problems.  i work with the public everyday in a very low paying job, and i see people that should not have even 1 child (because of the way they treat the ones they already have) with several and more on the way! and you know it’s so they can get more subsidies, they are not the kind of people that it’s costing them any where near what we say in our polls to raise a child. one little boy in the area goes to school in the very same shirt every day, i see him at the bus stop with the other kids. i think a tax of say $5000
    for each person in a family will go a long way to slow this flood of poor uneducated reproduction. i know this sound so callous but if you saw what i see everyday you might just understand.

  • kristi

    while i’m at this site i might as well push my husbands idea for getting us out of the current financial fix we’re in. give every taxpaying legal adult $100,000 tax free, (one time shot no do overs) this would give the average family $200.000 which they can save their home from being foreclosed upon, buy a new car. take the kids to the doctor or whatever they think is worthwhile. i know that some will spend it all on booze or casino’s but that’s still an immediate shot to the economy. this idea would reset everyone to a more fair playing field and the economy would be the benefactor big time because the average person will spend that money not sit on it and the one’s that do sit on it will give the credit unions more business. a lot of people would have their life changed for the better by this idea and wouldn’t it be nice to stop hearing about all the foreclosures and people out of work.

    • http://www.bmwysp.deviantart.com Jennifer Megan Varnadore

      The government doesn’t have the money to do that. The more money in the government system the less the dollar is worth.

  • Ymlvonnie

    I agree with Mr. Buffet that the wealthy should be taxed!  It just pisses me off that the wealthy, who have the money, get all the “perks” while the less fortunate are being penalized for not qualifying for the “high income tier”.

    I also feel to make things easier for all of us, everyone should pay the same % across the board, regardless of how much you make….i.e.: 10% for someone who makes $2,000,000.00 = $200,000.00, 10% for an annual income of $200,000.00 = $20,000.00; 10% for $20,000.00 = $2,000.00, so on and so forth.  EQUAL & FAIR regardless.  No one can complain about how much they are paying versus anyone else.  It all becomes “even playing/paying field”.

    These are just my thoughts…..

  • joanieb

    I agree with Buffet.   The next step is to get out of these wars, as long as we are incurring debt for people who are going to be fighting ’til the world ends, we will never balance a budget and remarkably no one mentions that as the big drain on our economy. Not raising taxes on the rich does not create jobs for Americans, on the Chinese and others that produce the goods that the rich spend thier money on. 

  • joanieb

    I agree with Buffet.   The next step is to get out of these wars, as long as we are incurring debt for people who are going to be fighting ’til the world ends, we will never balance a budget and remarkably no one mentions that as the big drain on our economy. Not raising taxes on the rich does not create jobs for Americans, on the Chinese and others that produce the goods that the rich spend thier money on. 

  • Catzam1

    Yes absolutely

  • Catzam1

    Yes absolutely

  • Aniaksdh

    Thank you, Mr. Buffet!  Every step counts, we need to make many small ones if we can’t take the big ones today!  How does this happen, when our tax table clearly shows the intent is to help the lower class, with higher rates for the upper class?  Loopholes? Deductions?  The lower class give more, yet pay more, and can’t afford deductions!

  • Aniaksdh

    Thank you, Mr. Buffet!  Every step counts, we need to make many small ones if we can’t take the big ones today!  How does this happen, when our tax table clearly shows the intent is to help the lower class, with higher rates for the upper class?  Loopholes? Deductions?  The lower class give more, yet pay more, and can’t afford deductions!

  • pjs

    Why not tax everyone at the same rate? Say 25% instead of the 36% middle income pays now. That way all share at the same percentage! Yay Warren Buffet!

  • Sherkoo

    Yes, Mr. Buffett is absolutely correct.  If we want to save America and our Social Security, etc., somebody better get to work solving this problem ASAP — yesterday!!! Thanks for allowing my comments.

  • Jemyer24

    Finally, a very rich person who understands what’s going on with the ultra rich Congressional protectors of the rich, Thank you Mr. Buffett.

  • Bootaichi

    Mr Buffet is correct,those with more should give more back.Shared sacrifice is just that, shared.lets start with government officials,inclulding congress recieving the SAME benifits as the average people they claim they are and being part of the same retirement and all other systems that are good enough for the american people. All who run and balance a home budget know that the FIRST things you do away with are the unisentials,the unnecessary things. Why exactly has congress not even talked about ridding us of the absurd waste they so love to overlook? Just doing that would ballance our budget and pay back the money people PAYED into SSI that congress so illigally borrowed from every american but themselves, since they do not pay into the system.Why don’t they borrow from the congressional retirement fund to pay us back our SSI. Lets remember charity begins at home,we need to support our own before we give everything we have away to everyone else.

  • Tpolansky

    The problem isn’t that there isn’t enough in tax revenues…the problem is that the government doesn’t know how to only spend what it has!  We all have to say NO to things in order to balance our check books.  The government needs to say NO

  • Serenity

    Yes, yes, yes.  Why should be be giving the rich a pass on paying their fair share of taxes.  Do it already!  Yes, government is not being a good steward of our tax money and yes there is corruption in spending.  While that needs to be addressed, we need to tax the upper class and get some of the load off the middle class.  If something doesn’t happen, the middle class will be squeezed into the lower economic class and we will have a different country entirely. 

  • Diane

    Hey lets take it a step further!  Let’s confiscate ALL their wealth!!!  Yeah, that’s the solution.   Oh, wait.  You can only do that once.  Then where will the hungary politicians get all their money?  Oh yeah, the middle class.  ”Taxing the rich” sounds great, but think it thru ladies! If you remove that money from the economy & give it to politicians, all they do it hand back to their cronies and enrich their own pockets.  The gov’t spends more & more and all it does is place a bigger burden on us to pay off all the debt that they incur in our names.  Besides, it’s not THEIR money!  The gov’t does nothing to earn it.  Central planning never works and is a drain on society.
    I’m far from rich, I’m not even financially sound, but I sure don’t expect congress or rich people to bail me out! Nor should you!
    What would solve most political games is imposing term limits on congress. Maybe then they would be focused on their jobs and not their next election campaign.

    • Kerryb444

      The solution is never simple but taxing the rich at a higher rate was done under true conservatives like Eisenhower.  Look it up.  Of course it will take more fiscal responsibility from Government to solve the economic crisis we are in, but you can never get a business or government out of financial trouble purely by cost cutting measures.  You need to look at increasing the top line as well and this would be a start.

  • Hattie

    Anyone trying to excuse the wealthy from paying the same taxes we all do are little more than self serving crooks. Saying Washington needs to curtail reckless spending as an excuse not to make everyone play fair …especially including congress which can only seem to agree on giving themselves bonuses and raises. We need to do everything to improve America. Tax fairly across the board,stimulate job growth,eliminate personal debt,eliminate welfare & other social program fraud and make criminals pay for their own incarceration. The last one will really send chills up politicians spines ! 
    Before you believe what you here about other countries having crooked politicians,open up your eyes to the paid for politicians we have right here by the oil & coal cartel and wall street boys club. How else do all of these politicians spend millions of dollars to get a job that pays very little in comparison..yet they all come out of office super rich themselves. Stop drinking the kool-aid America. Demand more from your politicians or remove them from office. It is time to stop being sheep !

  • http://www.bmwysp.deviantart.com Jennifer Megan Varnadore

    We need to tax the mega-rich AND learn to curtail spending to only what our gov. has.

  • Teals500

    Yes, tax the mega-rich! The 21 yr old who gave himself a 55million dollar jet
    for his birthday is one example.. How about all those big payday sports guys.
    Multi million dollar contracts.. The rappers etc. as well.
    Susan in S.C. formerly Fla.

  • Marty

    Of course it’s fair to tax the mega-rich.  Historically, the economy was humming along just fine over the years that they were taxed at a much higher rate.  If tax cuts for them are so great, why has the economy been so bad through the years of the Bush tax cuts?  Of course taxing the mega rich won’t solve the entire deficit problem, but neither will any one other thing.  It will take a combination of things.  Increasing the tax on the rich and making taxable income like hedge fund managers’ earnings and investment income for those with high wealth is only fair.  Why should my total taxes be a higher percentage of my income than Mr. Buffett’s is of his?

  • Kala

    The
    26th amendment (granting the right to vote for 18 year-olds) took only 3
    months & 8 days to be ratified! Why? Simple! The people demanded
    it. That was in 1971…before computers, before e-mail, before cell
    phones, etc. 

    Of the 27 amendments to the Constitution, seven (7)
    took 1 year or less to become the law of the land….all because of
    public pressure. 

    I’m asking each addressee to forward this email to a minimum of
    twenty people on their address list; in turn ask each of those to do likewise. 

    In
    three days, most people in The United States of America will have the
    message. This is one idea that really should be passed around. 

    Congressional Reform Act of 2011 

    1. Term Limits. 

    12 years only, one of the possible options below.

    A. Two Six-year Senate terms 
    B. Six Two-year House terms C. One Six-year Senate term and three Two-Year House terms 

    2. No Tenure / No Pension. 

    A Congressman collects a salary while in office and receives no pay when they are out of office. 

    3. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social Security. 

    All
    funds in the Congressional retirement fund move to the Social Security
    system immediately. All future funds flow into the Social Security
    system, and Congress participates with the American people. 

    4. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan, just as all Americans do. 

    5. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise. Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%. 

    6. Congress loses their current health care system and
    participates in the same health care system as the American people. 

    7. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the American people. 

    8. All contracts with past and present Congressmen are void effective 1/1/12. 

    The American people did not make this contract with Congressmen. Congressmen made all these contracts for themselves. 

    Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, so ours should serve their term(s), then go home and back to work. If each person contacts a minimum of twenty people then
    it will only take three days for most people (in the U.S. ) to receive the message. Maybe it is time.

  • Kala

    The
    26th amendment (granting the right to vote for 18 year-olds) took only 3
    months & 8 days to be ratified! Why? Simple! The people demanded
    it. That was in 1971…before computers, before e-mail, before cell
    phones, etc. 

    Of the 27 amendments to the Constitution, seven (7)
    took 1 year or less to become the law of the land….all because of
    public pressure. 

    I’m asking each addressee to forward this email to a minimum of
    twenty people on their address list; in turn ask each of those to do likewise. 

    In
    three days, most people in The United States of America will have the
    message. This is one idea that really should be passed around. 

    Congressional Reform Act of 2011 

    1. Term Limits. 

    12 years only, one of the possible options below.

    A. Two Six-year Senate terms 
    B. Six Two-year House terms C. One Six-year Senate term and three Two-Year House terms 

    2. No Tenure / No Pension. 

    A Congressman collects a salary while in office and receives no pay when they are out of office. 

    3. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social Security. 

    All
    funds in the Congressional retirement fund move to the Social Security
    system immediately. All future funds flow into the Social Security
    system, and Congress participates with the American people. 

    4. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan, just as all Americans do. 

    5. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise. Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%. 

    6. Congress loses their current health care system and
    participates in the same health care system as the American people. 

    7. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the American people. 

    8. All contracts with past and present Congressmen are void effective 1/1/12. 

    The American people did not make this contract with Congressmen. Congressmen made all these contracts for themselves. 

    Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, so ours should serve their term(s), then go home and back to work. If each person contacts a minimum of twenty people then
    it will only take three days for most people (in the U.S. ) to receive the message. Maybe it is time.

  • Ldickerson134

    Of course they should be taxed……NOW!

  • Ldickerson134

    Of course they should be taxed……NOW!

  • Anonymous

    The wealthy should be taxed at a higher rate, their argument that their wealth creates jobs is bull, if this was true then there wouldn’t be so many unemployed. And where were they before the recession? Congress’ rejection of even considering the reduction of tax breaks for the private jets is an example of how they want to balance the budget off the backs of the middle class. If the tax savings is so minimal then they shouldn’t have an objection!

  • Anonymous

    Buffet gets almost all his income from corporations, which have already had their income taxed at 33%.  So when you add in his 17%, that means that this income is already taxed at 50% … and that’s just Federal.  When you add in state taxes, plus local, plus real estate, it’s even higher.  Even if you taxed (i.e. stole) from “the rich” at 100%, it still would be just a drop in the bucket of Federal spending.  What we need, instead, is to cut cost.  Stealing from the rich through the tax system is not a way to prosperity.

  • Tiffany

    What really needs to happen, is that the US needs to remove their special tax laws that allows companies like GE etc. to move their HQ to Switzerland where they are taxed at 3% That will fix a lot of the issues and give the companies in the US who are being taxed a level playing field. It’s basically ethics 101.

  • Patrick

    The President and some in Congress have the belief that wealthy americans can meet the ever increasing needs of everybody else. And, the President wants to guarantee these benefits as an entitlement of citizenship. President Obama wants to redistribute the income and wealth of the country to pay for programs today we can not afford. (We are borrowing now to pay for existing programs.) We need someone like Bill Clinton, who managed to meet our needs and balance the federal budget. There is a limit to how much money can be borrowed. I agree with those who do not want to risk the financial ruin of the country to pay for things and programs we can do without. If a friend needs help and you can help them, lend a hand!  The D’s seem to want to write a check from the government for every type of need: education, health care, nutrition, housing. We need leaders who can find solutions without spending our money. We need leaders who can work within a budget.

  • AMB

    Absolutely! Tax the mega rich.  Let’s face it – just how much money does any person or family really need to be comfortable?  After a certain point, what do you do with it?  Conspicuous consumption is just ostentatious and silly.