Keep Your Maiden Name, Earn $500,000 More?

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Keep Your Last Name, Earn More?If a rose by any other name would smell as sweet, would a Rose by any other name earn as much?

It depends on whether we’re talking about Rose (née) Lee, Rose Jackson, or Rose Lee-Jackson.

According to a recent study from the Tilburg Institute for Behavioral Economics Research in the Netherlands, women who kept their maiden names were perceived to be more “independent, intelligent, ambitious and competent” than their married-name or hyphenated-name counterparts. In fact, when study participants had to give a hypothetical salary amount to one versus the other, maiden-named women were valued at about $1,172.36 more per month. Over a lifetime, that adds up to more than $500,000.

Yes, we knew it cost some money to change your name (around $100 to $500), but apparently the hidden costs are a lot steeper.

Nice to Meet You, Mrs. Smith

The study comprised several experiments, all of which yielded the same results. First, participants were asked to imagine meeting a married couple at a party. Some met a couple introduced with the same last name, and some met the same couple introduced with different last names. When asked to rate whether the women were caring, competent, dependent, intelligent and emotional, the married-name woman was deemed more caring, dependent and emotional. The maiden-name woman was seen as more intelligent and competent.

In a job interview experiment, participants saw resumes for “Roos Ellemers” with attached memos indicating that (1) she was named Fischer before marrying Dirk Ellemers, or (2) she is married to Dirk Fischer. The second set of Rooses was judged more ambitious and intelligent, was more likely to be hired and nabbed that higher monthly salary.

Is It Baloney?

If you’ve heard about the study already, you may be familiar with the caveats that run alongside it. First, the study was conducted on the Dutch population. Whether or not their views on hiring and sexism match America’s is debatable, but the Netherlands is generally considered a rather egalitarian society. Secondly, the participants were students, so some have argued that the results are to be taken with a grain of salt, as students aren’t actually making hiring decisions in the workplace.

But they will be later, right? And aren’t students even more open-minded and egalitarian than older folks–the ones currently making the hiring decisions?

Statistically, there has always been a strong correlation between women who keep their maiden names and higher earnings in the workplace. In the U.S., the percentage of women who keep their maiden names has shot up from 4% in 1975 to around 20% today. Women who keep their maiden names earn more, have higher levels of education and have fewer children. (If you’re working and considering having children, learn more about maternity leave.)

Statistically, there has always been a strong correlation between women who keep their maiden names and higher earnings in the workplace.

But correlation isn’t causation, and it’s easy to see the correlation–women who keep their maiden names tend to do so for professional reasons. After all, it’s not quite the same to think of Gloria Bale (instead of Steinem), Joan Dunne (instead of Didion), Anna Shaffer (instead of Wintour) and Barbara Katz, Guber or Adelson (instead of Walters). And speaking of Walters, the possibility of divorce adds another incentive to hold on to a maiden name, at least professionally–how many times will one change names over a lifetime if there is more than one marriage?

You Choose: Caring or Competent

The study suggests that maiden names and higher salary might not just be correlative, but slightly causal (or the correlation creates the causal relationship). This theory holds some weight, because it’s not the first time that bias in job interviews has been shown based on as little as names (see this study on white- vs. black-sounding names here).

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What’s frustrating is that the women with married names were perceived to be more emotional and caring–also positive qualities, although apparently not as valued in the workplace. Would you rather be seen as caring or competent? Emotional or intelligent? Can’t we be both, you ask? In reality, sure, but maybe not according to some instinctual hardwiring that triggers our binary snap judgments.

So what to do with this strange dilemma? Will you really boost your earning potential if you hold on to your maiden name? What about those women who have already changed their names–is it worth changing it back in the workplace?

Take Biases Into Account

You know you’re insanely smart and angelically caring all at the same time. But work is often about managing perceptions, and if women have to fight against a “caring/competent” dichotomy, consider this:

  • Keep your maiden name, even if just in a professional setting–hey, if it isn’t a major issue, it can’t hurt
  • Don’t plaster your cubicle with a zillion photos of your kids, friends and cute furry animals (just put up a few tasteful ones–keep the rest on your phone)
  • Hang a samurai sword above your desk and wear your poker face

Just kidding on the last one. Even your poker face can’t help you get your work done well, and at the end of the day, that’s really what makes your salary bump.

  • Christine

    I normally enjoy LV articles, but this one fails in many ways. It seems much more likely that women who keep their maiden name do so because they are already more well-established, have a reputation/clientel associated with their name, and make more both before and after their decision than the group who chooses to change their name. The perception differences follow in the same vein. If mainly those who have a vested (read: monetary) interest in their maiden name keep it, then this phenomenon will be associated with competency, intelligence, etc… as evidenced by the study. Come on LV, I thought you were better than this.

  • Christine

    I normally enjoy LV articles, but this one fails in many ways. It seems much more likely that women who keep their maiden name do so because they are already more well-established, have a reputation/clientel associated with their name, and make more both before and after their decision than the group who chooses to change their name. The perception differences follow in the same vein. If mainly those who have a vested (read: monetary) interest in their maiden name keep it, then this phenomenon will be associated with competency, intelligence, etc… as evidenced by the study. Come on LV, I thought you were better than this.

  • Christine

    I normally enjoy LV articles, but this one fails in many ways. It seems much more likely that women who keep their maiden name do so because they are already more well-established, have a reputation/clientel associated with their name, and make more both before and after their decision than the group who chooses to change their name. The perception differences follow in the same vein. If mainly those who have a vested (read: monetary) interest in their maiden name keep it, then this phenomenon will be associated with competency, intelligence, etc… as evidenced by the study. Come on LV, I thought you were better than this.

  • Christine

    I normally enjoy LV articles, but this one fails in many ways. It seems much more likely that women who keep their maiden name do so because they are already more well-established, have a reputation/clientel associated with their name, and make more both before and after their decision than the group who chooses to change their name. The perception differences follow in the same vein. If mainly those who have a vested (read: monetary) interest in their maiden name keep it, then this phenomenon will be associated with competency, intelligence, etc… as evidenced by the study. Come on LV, I thought you were better than this.

  • Christine

    I normally enjoy LV articles, but this one fails in many ways. It seems much more likely that women who keep their maiden name do so because they are already more well-established, have a reputation/clientel associated with their name, and make more both before and after their decision than the group who chooses to change their name. The perception differences follow in the same vein. If mainly those who have a vested (read: monetary) interest in their maiden name keep it, then this phenomenon will be associated with competency, intelligence, etc… as evidenced by the study. Come on LV, I thought you were better than this.

  • Christine

    I normally enjoy LV articles, but this one fails in many ways. It seems much more likely that women who keep their maiden name do so because they are already more well-established, have a reputation/clientel associated with their name, and make more both before and after their decision than the group who chooses to change their name. The perception differences follow in the same vein. If mainly those who have a vested (read: monetary) interest in their maiden name keep it, then this phenomenon will be associated with competency, intelligence, etc… as evidenced by the study. Come on LV, I thought you were better than this.

  • Christine

    I normally enjoy LV articles, but this one fails in many ways. It seems much more likely that women who keep their maiden name do so because they are already more well-established, have a reputation/clientel associated with their name, and make more both before and after their decision than the group who chooses to change their name. The perception differences follow in the same vein. If mainly those who have a vested (read: monetary) interest in their maiden name keep it, then this phenomenon will be associated with competency, intelligence, etc… as evidenced by the study. Come on LV, I thought you were better than this.

    • Abbey

      But still, doesn’t that say something about the type of woman who chooses not to change her name? She is more likely to be successful in the long run. Maybe if more women are brave enough to buck that social trend it will encourage the psychological confidence to push for that raise or that added responsibility that will make them more successful in the end?

    • Abbey

      But still, doesn’t that say something about the type of woman who chooses not to change her name? She is more likely to be successful in the long run. Maybe if more women are brave enough to buck that social trend it will encourage the psychological confidence to push for that raise or that added responsibility that will make them more successful in the end?

    • Abbey

      But still, doesn’t that say something about the type of woman who chooses not to change her name? She is more likely to be successful in the long run. Maybe if more women are brave enough to buck that social trend it will encourage the psychological confidence to push for that raise or that added responsibility that will make them more successful in the end?

    • Abbey

      But still, doesn’t that say something about the type of woman who chooses not to change her name? She is more likely to be successful in the long run. Maybe if more women are brave enough to buck that social trend it will encourage the psychological confidence to push for that raise or that added responsibility that will make them more successful in the end?

      • Rachel

        Women should be able to keep their name or change their name without having their salary affected.  To think otherwise is truly ridiculous.  There are many reasons a woman chooses to keep or chooses to change her last name that are unique to each person.

        Also, a woman can be confident AND change her last name.

        I didn’t enjoy this article either.

        • HL

          What SHOULD happen and what DOES happen are very, very different things. Women have not yet achieved sufficient equality in our society that things like this don’t matter. I would love to live in a society where nobody, regardless of gender, has to justify their decisions to marry or not, change names or not, have children or not…but that’s not our reality. To think differently is only fooling yourself.

          • Rachel

            Right.  That’s why I used the word “should.”

      • CMB

        Logic fail. If more successful then wont change name does not mean if does not change name then more successful.

    • http://twitter.com/gibsondm Alexandra Gibson

      I agree with this.  I think that a woman who is less likely to change her name is probably more established and more career-driven so she would probably earn the extra income regardless of name.  What if we all just changed to one name–Cher, Madonna?  How much could we earn then?

  • Christine

    I normally enjoy LV articles, but this one fails in many ways. It seems much more likely that women who keep their maiden name do so because they are already more well-established, have a reputation/clientel associated with their name, and make more both before and after their decision than the group who chooses to change their name. The perception differences follow in the same vein. If mainly those who have a vested (read: monetary) interest in their maiden name keep it, then this phenomenon will be associated with competency, intelligence, etc… as evidenced by the study. Come on LV, I thought you were better than this.

  • Christine

    I normally enjoy LV articles, but this one fails in many ways. It seems much more likely that women who keep their maiden name do so because they are already more well-established, have a reputation/clientel associated with their name, and make more both before and after their decision than the group who chooses to change their name. The perception differences follow in the same vein. If mainly those who have a vested (read: monetary) interest in their maiden name keep it, then this phenomenon will be associated with competency, intelligence, etc… as evidenced by the study. Come on LV, I thought you were better than this.

  • Susan

    I have to agree with Christine.  Normally i look forward to LV articles, but I totally disagree with the article and it seems very biased.  As a female business owner, I personally can care less if someone is married or not.  I know my clients personally like dealing with women who they see as married better, since they RELATE to them.  We have a very unique culture in the US that is constantly changing. 

    I think the cost issue in corporate America has nothing to do with the last name, but the AGE and PERSONALITY.  I know before I started my own business, I saw many schools refuse to hire me not because of my last name, but the fear I would have children and dart.  That is the issue here, not the last name.  Employers don’t care about the last name, they care about that ring on your finger if you are the proper age for child rearing.   I think with time we are going to see this end, however, as a new generation goes into business management. The world has changed a lot since the 1970s, and will keep changing. 

  • Susan

    I have to agree with Christine.  Normally i look forward to LV articles, but I totally disagree with the article and it seems very biased.  As a female business owner, I personally can care less if someone is married or not.  I know my clients personally like dealing with women who they see as married better, since they RELATE to them.  We have a very unique culture in the US that is constantly changing. 

    I think the cost issue in corporate America has nothing to do with the last name, but the AGE and PERSONALITY.  I know before I started my own business, I saw many schools refuse to hire me not because of my last name, but the fear I would have children and dart.  That is the issue here, not the last name.  Employers don’t care about the last name, they care about that ring on your finger if you are the proper age for child rearing.   I think with time we are going to see this end, however, as a new generation goes into business management. The world has changed a lot since the 1970s, and will keep changing. 

  • Susan

    I have to agree with Christine.  Normally i look forward to LV articles, but I totally disagree with the article and it seems very biased.  As a female business owner, I personally can care less if someone is married or not.  I know my clients personally like dealing with women who they see as married better, since they RELATE to them.  We have a very unique culture in the US that is constantly changing. 

    I think the cost issue in corporate America has nothing to do with the last name, but the AGE and PERSONALITY.  I know before I started my own business, I saw many schools refuse to hire me not because of my last name, but the fear I would have children and dart.  That is the issue here, not the last name.  Employers don’t care about the last name, they care about that ring on your finger if you are the proper age for child rearing.   I think with time we are going to see this end, however, as a new generation goes into business management. The world has changed a lot since the 1970s, and will keep changing. 

    • Georgia

      Agreed.

      Funny how [most] women can’t wait to get married, plan the wedding as The Most Important Event of their lives only to get up on their soap box and tell everyone about how independent and open-minded they are. Sheesh… Last name or no last name, indicates nothing in my opinion.

  • Georgia

    Funny. I took my husband’s name, but changed it back within the first year just because I couldn’t get used to it. It just wasn’t me. Not sure my earning potential has benefited or suffered, it was simply a matter of “not feeling it”.

  • Amanda

    I recently married. The first thing I was asked was what I changed my name to (since most people see me as pretty competitive and motivated). Most people werent surprised when I said that I kept my last name. More people were interested in my name change than any other detail of my wedding, based on what is commented in this article: women who are more successful keep their names. I am young and have several friends who have kept their name because it shows independence and family ties. After all, our husbands didnt bring us into the world. Just my thoughts…

  • Jessica Gutowski

    Oh- I’m making my future husband take my name lol  (Like he would ever do that) But- I really think I’ll keep mine- this is 2011. Times are changing.

  • HL

    I’m curious about how the woman’s age at marriage affects this (or for that matter, the man’s — I know at least one couple where the husband took his wife’s name). If a person marries young, before holding any significant employment, the name change probably doesn’t affect her much because nobody has any other frame of reference. A woman who marries once she has started to establish a career will be more obvious, since she will have to update all her clients, co-workers, and even former employers (“Hello, I’m calling to check references for Jane Smith.” “Sorry, I don’t see that we’ve ever had an employee named Jane Smith.” Not good.). So I would assume an early name change would have far less impact than a later one, but it would be fascinating to see the statistics broken down that way.

    Personally, I chose to keep my birth name when I married. I had many reasons for doing so, but even if I had decided to change, I NEVER would have gone by “Mrs.” in the workplace. My marital status is entirely irrelevant in a professional setting. And in my field, it is pretty apparent that any woman who is seen as important or powerful is always referred to as “Ms.” regardless of whether anyone knows her marital status, and those who are called “Miss/Mrs.” are generally being coddled or condescended to, or have a support role rather than a leadership role (i.e. secretary versus partner). I would not be surprised to find the same attitudes in other professions.

    • Rachel

      I am curious about this, too, HL. I married at 24, so I had barely two years in the workforce before I changed my name. I have a hard time believing that a change that early on in my career could impact my overall earnings in so dramatic a fashion (that and the fact that I currently earn more than the majority of my peers or my husband).  But, perhaps I’m mistaken, and I would be earning far more had I had the foresight to keep my maiden/father’s/own/birth name.

  • http://www.facebook.com/maryam.seifi Maryam Allee

    Indoctrinating the stereotypes only forges them. As women, we should be focusing on proving that you can be successful as well as compassionate, caring about your family. Just be genuine to yourself, and show the business world that success has many faces. Look at Michelle Obama, she was making 7 figures a year under a married name!

    • http://www.facebook.com/maryam.seifi Maryam Allee

      Also, I changed my name, and I could care less about the perceptions of others in such a big decision. Getting married, to me, is about starting a new family — but this is an issue that should have no bearing in the workplace. 

      • Haleigh Walker

        I agree.

  • Jolenenicotina

    Disappointed this article didnt touch more on the impressions given by hyphenated last names. Given the research, you would think hyphenation would offer the best of both worlds.

    • http://mischievouskitty.blogspot.com Stephanie

      I agree, especially since I DID opt to hyphenate.  As you said, it seemed like the best of both worlds.  I do get to share a surname with my husband and one day with our children, but there’s no question as to whether I really did earn those degrees that are under my maiden name.  And I like the fact there’s that continuity between my “old” life and my “new life.”  People who knew me before I got married won’t see my married name and think, “Who the heck is this lady??”

      That being said, I have no problem just going by my husband’s name in a social context, I don’t insist on being introduced by my hyphenated last name, because I hyphenated strictly for legal and practical purposes, not ideological ones.  One might even say I hyphenated out of sheer laziness – While my driver’s license, SS card, and bank accounts are under my hyphenated name, all my credit cards are still under my maiden name more than 5 years later! ;-)

  • Juliehquinn

    I’m making 7 figures under a married name.  No problem here.  I think this article is disappointing and really plays into the stereotypes.  

  • jaclyn whitaker

    What’s disappointing about this article is that it doesn’t mention why women choose to keep their name or change it… which is more indicative of earning potential.

    There is a deeper rooted social thought that women who keep their names do this for equality, independence and professional establishment reasons.  Right, wrong or indifferent, this gives employers the impression that she is strong, assertive, a decision maker and ultimately a good business person.

    I’ll stick with my name.  I’ve begun my career with the present one.  But, for me, it’s not about making more money… it’s a committment I’ve made to myself to steer away from ages of women always being handed from father to husband, demonstrated through the name change.  But others may change it because of tradition, raising children, etc.  To each one’s own…

    I think this article misses the point.

  • Lisa39

    Here’s something to consider: try having an ethnic maiden name like I did before I chose to take my husband’s name. It was hard to spell, hard to pronounce, and no one could remember it. It is much easier having my husband’s last name now - so I think this does a lot more for me career-wise. There is more than meets the eye with why some women choose to take their partner’s last name.

    • Kchessharonainfl

      Same here for me, Lisa.  My father’s name was very German, hard to spell and harder to pronounce, and I proudly use my husband’s name, as I love him very much. If that makes me more emotional, oh well. Besides, in the job that I have (cashiering) I rather doubt it affects my salary any at all.

    • Kchessharonainfl

      Same here for me, Lisa.  My father’s name was very German, hard to spell and harder to pronounce, and I proudly use my husband’s name, as I love him very much. If that makes me more emotional, oh well. Besides, in the job that I have (cashiering) I rather doubt it affects my salary any at all.

  • GSP

    I married at age 37, well established in my career, and I decided to take my husband’s last name.  In my view, when we married, we became a new entity altogether — we joyfully considered that we were now “one flesh, one family” — and I wanted to share that with the world in revering the symbolic representation of our one family name. Also, in having children, we wanted their identity to be firmly represented in our family love – one clear name, without question or confusion (so our kids would not be of a different name than their mother or hyphenated). As a business owner, I actually prefer my maiden name phonetically (its more unique in the US), but I was even more excited to have an outward sign of our union as a married couple and a new family because it represents a new and changed life for both of us as well as a declaration to others of our commitment, unity, identification and future together.  In my heart, my role as a family member, wife and soon-to-be mother far exceeds my concern about keeping my maiden name alive for my clients.  That said, I do understand the contemporary dilemma with a woman’s perception of her own identity in the workplace and elsewhere… many of my friends have kept their maiden names, and I happily encourage, to each her own.  In my view, our family name represents something greater than myself, and greater than my husband…and that’s exciting to us.

  • Paul

    I’m going to have to disagree with this one. It’s a ridiculous idea to think that keeping your maiden name is the reason you make more money and demand more respect. This study is flawed. I’d like to see what actual hiring managers have to say instead of university students.

    Also, anyone, not just women, are hired based on their drive and ability to get the job done. Yes, I’m sure women that keep their maiden name are probably more of a similar type (power women) but that doesn’t mean a power woman can’t take her husbands name and still out earn him and others. 

  • Sara

    I have learned that your name and the perception it gives is very important and can have a huge impact on your work life.

    I changed my name ten years ago from an “ethnic” sounding last name to a very “Anglo” name because I had been discriminated against when looking for a job. My mother encouraged me to experiment using a “white” name when I applied for jobs and I was surprised to find out that I received much more interest in my resume when I used the more “white” sounding name. I went back and resubmitted applications for the same position under my new “white” name and received call backs from companies that previously ignored my resume.  
    I decided to legally change my last name because of this discrimination and because I did not have any affinity towards my last name since my father was not really present in my life. I achieved professional success with my new name and decided not to change it or hyphenate when I married last year. One reason is because my industry is fairly small and I am already established under my current name and another is because my husband’s last name is a masculine name which can be used as a first name and I wanted to avoid any confusion.

    Changing my last name was one of the best career choices I made. I can say with absolute certainty that it has had a direct impact on my career success.

  • Maracuja

    I am currently having this discussion with my boyfriend since we are thinking about getting married next year.  I don’t want to take his name because I rather keep my dad’s and the reason is that I never knew my father because he dies when I was a year old.  According to my family I am more like him that any of my sisters and even though I didn’t meet him I always feel connected to him through his books and even my career path which was similar to his.  I want to always have his last name but my boyfriends feels a bit offended with the fact that I won’t take his.  His reason is the whole family entity idea that GSP shares and that I truly respect.  I will compromise by using both and even though it calms the situation a bit I am still getting the vibe that it is not good enough for him. But oh well…its my decision and he will have to get over it.

  • guest

    I don’t really like my father so I rather not keep his name and Wallace is a freak’n awesome last name so I stuck with changing it to my husband’s. I guess if I wanted to be independent of all sexist biases, then I would have made up my own last name and not kept either a father’s or a husband’s.

    • http://www.smartmouthblog.com Nicole Longstreath

      I think that’s a great point – do what’s right for you. And Wallace IS a badass name!

      http://www.smartmouthblog.com

  • Lizkief2002

    I am considering changing my name back to my family name. I kept my husband’s name after the divorce but now my kids are adults. what’syour thoughts? Change or keep. My professional life will not be effected.

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      • Lizkief2002

        Thanks so much. I am on facebook but didn’t want to post something there. I would prefer to keep it quiet as I live in a very small town with small town sensibilities. I am a teacher and beginning a sideline in art. I am trying to think about a name to put on my drawings. I don’t really want to use my married name. I have toyed with changing my name but never did because I wanted to save explanations while my daughters were in middle and HS. My lawyer said women who change their name at divorce are usually angry. I don’t really agree with that but didn’t want to add that hassle with the stress of divorce.
        I liked this sight. Thanks again.

      • Lizkief2002

        Thanks so much. I am on facebook but didn’t want to post something there. I would prefer to keep it quiet as I live in a very small town with small town sensibilities. I am a teacher and beginning a sideline in art. I am trying to think about a name to put on my drawings. I don’t really want to use my married name. I have toyed with changing my name but never did because I wanted to save explanations while my daughters were in middle and HS. My lawyer said women who change their name at divorce are usually angry. I don’t really agree with that but didn’t want to add that hassle with the stress of divorce.
        I liked this sight. Thanks again.

  • Spedexaminer

    I kept my own name and it was a great decision.  I had a great credit rating and it would have been GONE if I had changed my name.  My husband and I would get multiple offers for deals, coupons, credit cards tec vs only one if we were under one name.   26 years later and still married..when I get an offer of credit, my maiden name gets awesome offers. my “married” name alias is only offered “secured” cards.   I do hyphenate my name when I deal with affairs with the kids.  

    Several years after marriage my husband agreed that keeping my name was wise.

    OTOH, if you have women who constantly marry, divorce and keep changeing their name, it could lead anyone to think they are flaky or unstable in their commitments to anything.  

    • Medulla291

      Actually, your credit score is linked to your social security number, not name, so if you change your name legally with the social security office then it doesn’t affect your credit score at all.

      When I was married I took my husband’s name and my excellent credit score followed me. It allowed us to qualify for all of the best mortgage and car loan rates, and it also didn’t affect me that my husband’s score was less than stellar.

      I have a feeling that the secured offers that come to your married name are only because your married name has no credit history.  If you had changed it with social security, though, that wouldn’t be the case.

      Just FYI for women considering the pros and cons.

    • Medulla291

      Actually, your credit score is linked to your social security number, not name, so if you change your name legally with the social security office then it doesn’t affect your credit score at all.

      When I was married I took my husband’s name and my excellent credit score followed me. It allowed us to qualify for all of the best mortgage and car loan rates, and it also didn’t affect me that my husband’s score was less than stellar.

      I have a feeling that the secured offers that come to your married name are only because your married name has no credit history.  If you had changed it with social security, though, that wouldn’t be the case.

      Just FYI for women considering the pros and cons.

      • Spedexaminer

        Actually, credit scores used to follow names not SS numbers and that is the way it was when I got married.  
        It also doesn’t help that my husbands name is a different ethnicity from mine.  Altho my husband is caucasion, his name conjured up minority groups that have commonly been discriminated against.  When we got married,we were simultaneously applying for a home loan.  Lenders where extremely discriminatory at that time and our loan took FOREVER to be approved.  I think they dragged their feet for 3 months! My husbands credit was good and mine was excellent at the time and they finally had no choice but to give it to us.  Luckily the housing market was slow at the time.    

      • Spedexaminer

        Actually, credit scores used to follow names not SS numbers and that is the way it was when I got married.  
        It also doesn’t help that my husbands name is a different ethnicity from mine.  Altho my husband is caucasion, his name conjured up minority groups that have commonly been discriminated against.  When we got married,we were simultaneously applying for a home loan.  Lenders where extremely discriminatory at that time and our loan took FOREVER to be approved.  I think they dragged their feet for 3 months! My husbands credit was good and mine was excellent at the time and they finally had no choice but to give it to us.  Luckily the housing market was slow at the time.    

  • JaneC

    I have been married for 40 years, and have used my own name throughout.  (Back in the 70s, we feminists didn’t like the term “maiden name”–we said we were keeping our “own” names!)

    But I found it interesting that you distinguished a maiden name from a hyphenated name.  My husband and I gave our children a hyphenated last name that combined both our last names, and they used it and still use it consistently.  So my daugher’s “maiden name” is actually a hyphenated  name!

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000216348709 Lori Bowser-Beat

      Hi Jane,

      Recently, my husband adopted my daughter. When my daughter was born, her father did common;lly what young men are doing today–running from their resposinbilities. I, as a 90′s “feminist” decided to give my daughter my father’s last name. So, during the adoption process, my husband and I asked my daughter numerous times what she wanted her last name to be. Here was her reply, “I want my grandpa and my dad’s last name.”

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000216348709 Lori Bowser-Beat

      Hi Jane,

      Recently, my husband adopted my daughter. When my daughter was born, her father did common;lly what young men are doing today–running from their resposinbilities. I, as a 90′s “feminist” decided to give my daughter my father’s last name. So, during the adoption process, my husband and I asked my daughter numerous times what she wanted her last name to be. Here was her reply, “I want my grandpa and my dad’s last name.”

  • Anonymous

    I think everyone should just pick the name that sounds the best…that would be the subject of the conversation at a party- so which name did yall keep?…

    I took my husband’s last name- too much energy to think about the pros and cons on my future career- either way I expect to be successful and my name won’t adjust my income, especially if I’m my own boss! :)

  • Jae Victor

    Being that asking about marital status is an illegal question to begin with…  If you don’t say, then how would they know, unless as previously mentioned, you did work or a degree under another name?  But that doesn’t indicate married or not unless you specifically volunteer that information.  

    Women have been keeping their father’s last names for decades.  I didn’t realize there was still such a big deal about using one or the other.  Who isn’t letting the topic die – men or women? 

  • Carrie

    Here is my POV. My years in early elementary I carried my biological father’s last name. When the adoption was finalized, my “mother” dropped my biological father’s last name and added hers. She turned out to be an evil woman. I just got married in April and I have taken on my husbands last name. Although I had found my biological family before I got married, I don’t know my father as I should. As I said before, the lady who adopted me was evil. I think I made the best choice?

    • Kkseagreen

      I took my adopted fathers last name when I was 12 and was overzealous to take my husbands name, it made me feel a sense of belonging that I’d never had before.  I wish I would’ve kept my mother’s maiden name initially after changing from my biological father’s name as a child.  I’ve always been very proud of my mother’s side.  I agree that you made the best choice.  I think this is a silly stereotype.

    • Kkseagreen

      I took my adopted fathers last name when I was 12 and was overzealous to take my husbands name, it made me feel a sense of belonging that I’d never had before.  I wish I would’ve kept my mother’s maiden name initially after changing from my biological father’s name as a child.  I’ve always been very proud of my mother’s side.  I agree that you made the best choice.  I think this is a silly stereotype.

  • Caroline NYC

    Interesting because I read a study last year that showed that marriages are more likely to head for divorce when the women keeps her maiden name. They said it was because having the same last name breeds more of a “we” and “us” mentality, even subconsciously, whereas using one’s maiden name keeps the “me” and “mine” mentality more intact. From that standpoint, I can see how this could be.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1359753133 Barbara Warren

      Well, my first marriage only lasted 20 years.  Current one 12 years and counting. Kept own name for both; it’s who I  am and who I’ve always been

  • Maddie

    I’m curious what *already* having two last names would do to this study.  My maiden name IS both my mom’s maiden name (she never took my dad’s name) and my dad’s name.  It causes enough problems as it is.  :P   It is an interesting thought though.  And I can definately see how it would have at least a subconscious effect.  Which is unfortunate. 

  • http://www.koozai.com Koozai Mike

    For so many people their name is their brand so changing it would ruin that. As an alternate to this Cheryl Cole had far more success with her married name, than before, so after her divorce she didn’t revert back.

  • http://www.koozai.com Koozai Mike

    For so many people their name is their brand so changing it would ruin that. As an alternate to this Cheryl Cole had far more success with her married name, than before, so after her divorce she didn’t revert back.

  • Kkseagreen

    I think this perception is dumb, and I’m Dutch and American.  If one wants to consider keeping their maiden name, it’s because they are proud to carry on the family tradition and prominent heritage, one isn’t less independent, worthy, or intelligent.  I also think that using maiden names may be more economical because if there’s a separation no changes need to be made so it doesn’t cost anything since it’s the name you were given at birth.  There’s nothing wrong with tradition, I have used my first and middle name for my art and music and that is my preference.  I also was glad to take my husband’s last name because I’m proud of it, and it shows respect and commitment to my partner.  When women keep their last name and their husbands last name, it’s a personal preference, but I find excessively long last names irritating, too hard to remember, and not important, the complete opposite of this so called theory.  More focus on a women’s identity, is an ongoing process, it just doesn’t “happen” because you accept or don’t accept change tacked onto to your first and last name.  Just like mental perception impacts success or failure, you believe what you make of it, you achieve what you’re focused on, goals are in the eye of the beholder and the sky is the limit.  Actions speak louder than words, and mark the true charisma of a talented woman.  Who a woman is, and what she becomes stems from within her; personality, confidence, beauty, determination, faith, devotion, love, forgiveness, are all possible, because she believes she can accomplish anything, with or without the support of those she loves and who love her in return, and regardless of her last name.  A “name tag” can’t replace effort, hard work, commitment and dedication, and place a higher “price tag” on an individual unless they come from a wealthy family or are marrying into one.

    • Lsrms3977

      It seems like Dutch women are able to carry on the family names compared to American women.

  • Kkseagreen

    I think this perception is dumb, and I’m Dutch and American.  If one wants to consider keeping their maiden name, it’s because they are proud to carry on the family tradition and prominent heritage, one isn’t less independent, worthy, or intelligent.  I also think that using maiden names may be more economical because if there’s a separation no changes need to be made so it doesn’t cost anything since it’s the name you were given at birth.  There’s nothing wrong with tradition, I have used my first and middle name for my art and music and that is my preference.  I also was glad to take my husband’s last name because I’m proud of it, and it shows respect and commitment to my partner.  When women keep their last name and their husbands last name, it’s a personal preference, but I find excessively long last names irritating, too hard to remember, and not important, the complete opposite of this so called theory.  More focus on a women’s identity, is an ongoing process, it just doesn’t “happen” because you accept or don’t accept change tacked onto to your first and last name.  Just like mental perception impacts success or failure, you believe what you make of it, you achieve what you’re focused on, goals are in the eye of the beholder and the sky is the limit.  Actions speak louder than words, and mark the true charisma of a talented woman.  Who a woman is, and what she becomes stems from within her; personality, confidence, beauty, determination, faith, devotion, love, forgiveness, are all possible, because she believes she can accomplish anything, with or without the support of those she loves and who love her in return, and regardless of her last name.  A “name tag” can’t replace effort, hard work, commitment and dedication, and place a higher “price tag” on an individual unless they come from a wealthy family or are marrying into one.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ND7A3NNB64BU6UX73ZHVMIR46E kw

    I think there are some lurking variables in this study.  Women in academia generally keep their maiden names, and so do women who are in prominent social positions.  Women in such prominent social positions tend to earn more money than women in less prominent positions.  If the world knows you by one name, changing it can be confusing, even if it remains hyphenated.  A woman is seen as independent if she is unmarried, and presenting a couple with two different last names either creates the assumption that the two are only dating, or it creates the assumption that they are married with two completely different lives.  Either way, the woman has to be more independent because she doesn’t have a partner.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ND7A3NNB64BU6UX73ZHVMIR46E kw

    I think there are some lurking variables in this study.  Women in academia generally keep their maiden names, and so do women who are in prominent social positions.  Women in such prominent social positions tend to earn more money than women in less prominent positions.  If the world knows you by one name, changing it can be confusing, even if it remains hyphenated.  A woman is seen as independent if she is unmarried, and presenting a couple with two different last names either creates the assumption that the two are only dating, or it creates the assumption that they are married with two completely different lives.  Either way, the woman has to be more independent because she doesn’t have a partner.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000216348709 Lori Bowser-Beat

    I was married last year. It has cost me many frustrations. My income has been significantly been reduced, but I do not want to go into full detail as of why. I have kept my maiden name for over a year now. I do not care about the confusion when we were looking for a mortgage for a house. I do it because it IS cost effective for me. Other times, when we are with people whom we know, I go by my married name. My husband doesn’t mind and he just read this post to see why I have done that. I hope potential employers do see me as independent. However, during one of my classes, I have learned about Emotional Intelligence in the workplace. This study goes against what I have learned. The only thing I do not understand that wasn’t mentioned in the above article is, how will anyone know your maiden name in the first place if the surname isn’t hyphenated?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000216348709 Lori Bowser-Beat

    I was married last year. It has cost me many frustrations. My income has been significantly been reduced, but I do not want to go into full detail as of why. I have kept my maiden name for over a year now. I do not care about the confusion when we were looking for a mortgage for a house. I do it because it IS cost effective for me. Other times, when we are with people whom we know, I go by my married name. My husband doesn’t mind and he just read this post to see why I have done that. I hope potential employers do see me as independent. However, during one of my classes, I have learned about Emotional Intelligence in the workplace. This study goes against what I have learned. The only thing I do not understand that wasn’t mentioned in the above article is, how will anyone know your maiden name in the first place if the surname isn’t hyphenated?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000216348709 Lori Bowser-Beat

    I logged in with my facebook account. It is for family and friends. That is why my last name is being shown as hyphenated. I do have another separate account for business where I used my legal first and last name incase anyone was wondering.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000216348709 Lori Bowser-Beat

    I logged in with my facebook account. It is for family and friends. That is why my last name is being shown as hyphenated. I do have another separate account for business where I used my legal first and last name incase anyone was wondering.

  • Anonymous

    I was married this past June and changing my name was one of the hardest decisions I’ve ever had to make. I grew up thinking it would be a no-brainer to change my name to my husband’s…until I married someone with an extremely common last name. I was going from a very unique last name to one that thousands of other people have and felt a sense of identity loss. My husband supported me in whatever decision I’d make. After some thought, I decided to take his last name and change my middle name to my maiden name. My new signature uses my old middle initial, as well, so it’s still a part of my life somehow. I think the important thing to remember is to refrain from over-thinking the process. Trust your intuition and chances are you will always know which name defines you best. Changing your name can be very symbolic of the new chapter into which you’ve entered. For some, it makes more sense to keep their birth name if they’ve established themselves professionally, or it holds extraordinary meaning.  It’s such a shame that employers can be so biased in using stereotypes to determine professional value. Discrimination happens everywhere, so make sure to do what feels right for you–you only get one life to live.

  • Lsrms3977

    If you don’t want to change your last name, all you American ladies, marry a Dutch or even Scandinavian guy to stay safe. He’ll appreciate your decisions to keep your last name. You could share names or he can take yours as well. They won’t force you to change your last name like American or Canadian men do. Even French and Germans are known to share last names upon marriage as well because France and Germany are also egalitarian countries. Sometimes husbands are willing to take their wives’ last names as well.

    • Missmelissakd

      Actually American women aren’t legally obligated to change their names upon marriage. No state in our union requires it. The culture, however, is a different issue.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1359753133 Barbara Warren

      I kept my own name when I got married 30 years ago. My husband had no problem with it. The kids got both names, and on their own they each chose to drop mine when they reached adulthood. Their choice. I’m on my 2d marriage now but still on my first (and only) name. 2d husband also had no issue;his first wife kept her name too. Most of my friends also kept their own names.

  • TC-B

    What about hyphenated names?  I already have one as my parents hyphenated their names when they got married.  I also plan to “add on” when I eventually get married.  (My sisters say that I will sound like a law firm, but I don’t mind.)  I like the idea of taking my future husband’s name, but there is also my family name to think about.  I only have sisters  (and almost all female cousins)and if we all take our husbands’ names….then our unique name and heritage and family history will disappear.
     
    Also, what about Spanish names?  Doesn’t Spanish nomenclature take both parents’ last names and don’t women just keep their names when they get married?  (this is from very shaky high school Spanish class….so someone please correct me if I’m wrong.)

  • http://twitter.com/MediaMynx MediaMynx

    This is really stupid. Besides, when you interview for a job, they aren’t legally allowed to know if you are married and used to be named something else. I’ll bet if you dug deeper into the statistics you would see that those who kept their maiden name did so because they already had a lot of equity against in their fields. It’s also perfectly legal to officially change your last name and still use your maiden name within the workplace/industry. Most people with established careers do this, especially those with strong networks. I’ll be Ms. Maiden name at work, and Mrs. Married name legally, and guess what, I’ll still be just as confident and successful at work as I am now (just got engaged). Really insulting article LV