What Does Gender Equality Mean, Anyway?

Allison Kade
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Is women's equality finally here? As a financial publication for women, we’re almost tired of hearing about the gender gap–otherwise known as the fact that women make as much as 12% less than men even 10 years out of college.

Well, good news for us all–recent census bureau stats tell us that it’s changing. Women are about to take over the world. No, seriously.

Nowadays, more women in their 20s and 30s have bachelor’s degrees than men (7%, to be exact), not to mention that women also have higher GPAs. During the recession, women also fared better in terms of layoffs. And, although the wage gap is real, it is starting to shrink—in a few parts of the country, women are starting to out-earn men. In Atlanta, young women are earning 21% more than their male peers, and in large cities, women between the ages of 22 and 30 have been making an average of 8% more than their male counterparts.

So, is it all sunshine ahead? The picture is more complicated than it appears.

Although women are outpacing men in certain respects, old-school biases still hold us back. Two of the big reasons for the pay discrepancy between men and women are:

  1. Women are statistically less likely to negotiate pay raises (read here for our advice on how to do it).
  2. Women are much likelier to leave the workforce or cut back their hours in order to raise families.

So, if reducing the pay gap requires conquering those two obstacles (in addition to eliminating the sexism that does, in fact, persist in some workplaces), women need to get better at arguing for their own worth (which we are all for) and need to…rethink having families? Hmm. That seems less plausible.

Women Are Making Gains, But…?

These stats speak of women who are better educated than their male counterparts but don’t necessarily have much more to show for it.

Although we have a younger generation of women who are now more educated than their male peers, only 15 of 500 Fortune 500 CEOs are female. And while women did ride out the recession better than men, men are landing most of the new jobs created by the recovery.

To us, these stats speak of women who are better educated than their male counterparts but don’t necessarily have much more to show for it.

Looking Past Nice Platitudes

The reality is that major professional success usually comes with long hours and, especially at larger companies, is often equated with inflexible work-life balance. As far as we can tell, something’s gotta give in order to have it all–for now, our best hope lies with businesses with warm corporate cultures that acknowledge life outside the office. But those aren’t exactly a dime a dozen. The New York Times recently covered an organization of powerful women supporting other women professionally (with a shout-out to our CEO Alexa), but we’re still yearning for a clear road map to a world in which a woman can easily be both Mom and CEO.

Does The Rise Of Women Turn Men Into Boys?

As an interesting aside, one controversial essay in The Wall Street Journal argues that women’s success—and the fact that they often delay family life in order to achieve that success—has inspired men to turn into “guys,” or Seth Rogen-ites who play videogames all day and lack basic competitive drive. The author argues that women’s emergence as intellectual equals (and, sometimes, as betters) and the redefinition of gender and family roles has made men feel unnecessary. In her words, “Why should they grow up? No one needs them anyway…They might as well just have another beer.”

TELL US: So, what’s the solution? How does the positive trend of women’s increased education and earnings affect the realities of our work-life choices and male-female partnership dynamics?

  • JackieAU5

    Excellent article Allison. Although strides are being made in the workplace there is still much work to be done. Many offices still see men as “providers” and women of less importance. I reccomend a great book by Congresswoman (NY) Carolyn Maloney titled: “Rumours of Our Progress Have Been Greatly Exaggerated” that explores many women’s issues and all of the work that needs to be done.

    How about we also get moving on approving the ERA, where it states women have the same rights as men under the law? I could go on for hours…
    http://www.equalrightsamendment.org/

  • JackieAU5

    Excellent article Allison. Although strides are being made in the workplace there is still much work to be done. Many offices still see men as “providers” and women of less importance. I reccomend a great book by Congresswoman (NY) Carolyn Maloney titled: “Rumours of Our Progress Have Been Greatly Exaggerated” that explores many women’s issues and all of the work that needs to be done.

    How about we also get moving on approving the ERA, where it states women have the same rights as men under the law? I could go on for hours…
    http://www.equalrightsamendment.org/

    • Julieprettyman

      Is this really what we want? Wimpy men and domineering women running our nation? Men were not created to stay at home and nurture the kids, women were. That is one of the lies the feminist movement has tried to get us to believe. It is just that-LIES! Our society is going down the tubes, because of the lack of moms in the home nurturing and loving their kids. All the while allowing daycare providers and/ or dads to be the one to raise them…Really? And we say this is what is best for our society. All women care to satisfy is themselves. We have a self-centered society, who looks out for only what they want and not in the interest of anyone but themselves. How educated is that? It is so short-sided! They get what they want initially, but in the end, it will lead to our demise!

    • Julieprettyman

      Is this really what we want? Wimpy men and domineering women running our nation? Men were not created to stay at home and nurture the kids, women were. That is one of the lies the feminist movement has tried to get us to believe. It is just that-LIES! Our society is going down the tubes, because of the lack of moms in the home nurturing and loving their kids. All the while allowing daycare providers and/ or dads to be the one to raise them…Really? And we say this is what is best for our society. All women care to satisfy is themselves. We have a self-centered society, who looks out for only what they want and not in the interest of anyone but themselves. How educated is that? It is so short-sided! They get what they want initially, but in the end, it will lead to our demise!

      • JackieAU5

        I think it’s time you hop back in your buggie and ride back to the 1800s.

        • Steven Luo

          I totally agree, that gives you JackieAU5 a high five.

      • JackieAU5

        I think it’s time you hop back in your buggie and ride back to the 1800s.

      • miliKitty

        Ah-hahahaha!
        Fathers and Mothers, Aunts, Uncles, Grandparents, Godparents, close friends, neighbors – any loving, responsible adult can make a solid foundation for a child and a family.
        We are all people. Individuals. Pieces of a greater whole. For each one of us gender is only one piece of a greatly multifaceted puzzle. The characteristics associated with gender are not rooted in reality. It’s the social pressure for people to follow these roles and the consequences presented to those who don’t follow them that causes MANY people to not express who they really are. That cause you to perceive them as different from who they really are.
        How do you know what a man is like at home, or what a woman is really like, if you judge them so harshly for behaving like themselves?
        “Wimpy” (i.e. caring? fatherly?) men and “domineering” (i.e. confident? goal-oriented?) women (and every type of person in between) have been around for as long as human history. If you’re not aware of this, it’s either because you haven’t noticed or they’ve been putting up a front in the public view so as to avoid the socially constructed consequences.

      • miliKitty

        Ah-hahahaha!
        Fathers and Mothers, Aunts, Uncles, Grandparents, Godparents, close friends, neighbors – any loving, responsible adult can make a solid foundation for a child and a family.
        We are all people. Individuals. Pieces of a greater whole. For each one of us gender is only one piece of a greatly multifaceted puzzle. The characteristics associated with gender are not rooted in reality. It’s the social pressure for people to follow these roles and the consequences presented to those who don’t follow them that causes MANY people to not express who they really are. That cause you to perceive them as different from who they really are.
        How do you know what a man is like at home, or what a woman is really like, if you judge them so harshly for behaving like themselves?
        “Wimpy” (i.e. caring? fatherly?) men and “domineering” (i.e. confident? goal-oriented?) women (and every type of person in between) have been around for as long as human history. If you’re not aware of this, it’s either because you haven’t noticed or they’ve been putting up a front in the public view so as to avoid the socially constructed consequences.

      • Really?

        Hysterical.
        My husband had not had a job in over a decade. He was “pursuing his art”. Ok, fine. He also had a large disposable income. Fine. He always encouraged me to try to follow my dream, which was not in the field I worked in. When I got laid off and did try to follow my dream, he essentially filed for divorce. Even if you do need them : men will not be there. Even if you support *them* : men will not be there.

        God bless the child that’s got her own, baby.

        I’m finally back on my feet again and will never, ever let someone else control me and mine.

        Financially insecure women make weak men feel better about themselves. These men would not be achievers in any situation – whether women “need” them or not. Why should your destiny depend on someone else? That’s not love, that’s not social consciousness. If anything, it’s careless risk-taking that could put a potentially expensive burden upon the state.

        I got lucky that my situation worked out as quickly and well as it did. I now support myself, again, pay taxes, I’m taking classes to follow my dream, and I’m looking forward to volunteering again.

        You, Julieprettyman, don’t know what you’re talking about and I suspect are just trolling here. I chose to answer anyway so others can hear a real answer.

      • Really?

        Hysterical.
        My husband had not had a job in over a decade. He was “pursuing his art”. Ok, fine. He also had a large disposable income. Fine. He always encouraged me to try to follow my dream, which was not in the field I worked in. When I got laid off and did try to follow my dream, he essentially filed for divorce. Even if you do need them : men will not be there. Even if you support *them* : men will not be there.

        God bless the child that’s got her own, baby.

        I’m finally back on my feet again and will never, ever let someone else control me and mine.

        Financially insecure women make weak men feel better about themselves. These men would not be achievers in any situation – whether women “need” them or not. Why should your destiny depend on someone else? That’s not love, that’s not social consciousness. If anything, it’s careless risk-taking that could put a potentially expensive burden upon the state.

        I got lucky that my situation worked out as quickly and well as it did. I now support myself, again, pay taxes, I’m taking classes to follow my dream, and I’m looking forward to volunteering again.

        You, Julieprettyman, don’t know what you’re talking about and I suspect are just trolling here. I chose to answer anyway so others can hear a real answer.

      • Schmidt Katrina

        Obviously, I am all for women being able to work and be treated (and paid) equally in the work force, if that is what they choose to do. It is what I am choosing to do right now, and it makes me very happy. However, I know that down the road, taking time off from work to raise a family and invest in my kids is also something I’d like to chose to do, and THAT is what women’s equality should be all about! We should not be penalized for that choice. Mothers who stay home and raise their kids and help instill them with morals, values, skills, and emotional security are JUST as necessary to the future of our nation as CEOs and women’s presence in the workforce. THAT is true equality. Being able to make that choice without being penalized.

        That said, men have an inherent need to feel useful, needed, depended on, and respected. When they don’t feel that way, a generation of “boys” and “slackers” is exactly what we’ll get. You can see it already. As women, is that REALLY what we want? We have WAAAY more power over men than we realize. We can make them or break them by the way we TREAT them. Just like they can do for us. And that is what we need to remember as we move forward into the future. Women need equality yes. But Men also still need to feel relevant. So let’s find a way to strike that balance, rather than pit our genders against each other all the time. That is just counter-intuitive and destructive.

        • mkKitty

          I have mixed feelings about your post. My response to your first paragraph is “absolutely”, I think it’s essential to feminism (and to humanism) that you be allowed to do what you want to do with your life (home, kids, career, film noir, whatever) without judgement from me or anyone that it makes you less of this or less of that. Feminism is marked by waves of differing focus and just like any movement not everyone has the same idea of what it means – there’s also a LOT of misinformation and stereotyping out there about what feminism is and the goals of feminism. So I don’t think your first paragraph is at odds with my idea of feminism at all. In fact, think it’s quintessential feminism.

          However, you totally lose me in the second paragraph. Firstly, I disagree in typifying an entire gender. People have an inherent need to feel useful, needed, depended on and respected – or rather *some* people. Not ALL men have that inherent need and some women also do. But I don’t think that the answer for the future is for women to bend over backwards to make men feel better about themselves so that we can all get along. I think all people, regardless of gender, should be aware of the feelings of those around them and should aim to improve the quality of life for the people that they love. I also feel that we should expect men to take responsibility for their roles in a changing society.

          If men are hurt by the advancement of women in the workplace – it has nothing to do with Women (who have an inherent right to pursue their own happiness). It’s because they were raised in a society that taught them that a Man is the provider. This restrictive view of people wherein a man must define himself in a very narrow and particular way in order to be considered a worthwhile person is the root of the problem. This is the double edge of the blade.
          We would all benefit in a world bereft of such gender essentialism.

          Here’s a great paragraph from a great article: “Implicit in feminism/womanism is not only the belief, but the expectation, that men are not brutish nor infantile—nor stupid, useless, inept, emotionally stunted, or any other negative stereotype feminists have been accused of promoting—but instead our equals just as much as we are theirs, capable not only of understanding feminism (and feminists), but of actively and rigorously engaging challenges to their socialization, too.” – http://shakespearessister.blogspot.com/2011/05/whoooooooooops_06.html

        • mkKitty

          I have mixed feelings about your post. My response to your first paragraph is “absolutely”, I think it’s essential to feminism (and to humanism) that you be allowed to do what you want to do with your life (home, kids, career, film noir, whatever) without judgement from me or anyone that it makes you less of this or less of that. Feminism is marked by waves of differing focus and just like any movement not everyone has the same idea of what it means – there’s also a LOT of misinformation and stereotyping out there about what feminism is and the goals of feminism. So I don’t think your first paragraph is at odds with my idea of feminism at all. In fact, think it’s quintessential feminism.

          However, you totally lose me in the second paragraph. Firstly, I disagree in typifying an entire gender. People have an inherent need to feel useful, needed, depended on and respected – or rather *some* people. Not ALL men have that inherent need and some women also do. But I don’t think that the answer for the future is for women to bend over backwards to make men feel better about themselves so that we can all get along. I think all people, regardless of gender, should be aware of the feelings of those around them and should aim to improve the quality of life for the people that they love. I also feel that we should expect men to take responsibility for their roles in a changing society.

          If men are hurt by the advancement of women in the workplace – it has nothing to do with Women (who have an inherent right to pursue their own happiness). It’s because they were raised in a society that taught them that a Man is the provider. This restrictive view of people wherein a man must define himself in a very narrow and particular way in order to be considered a worthwhile person is the root of the problem. This is the double edge of the blade.
          We would all benefit in a world bereft of such gender essentialism.

          Here’s a great paragraph from a great article: “Implicit in feminism/womanism is not only the belief, but the expectation, that men are not brutish nor infantile—nor stupid, useless, inept, emotionally stunted, or any other negative stereotype feminists have been accused of promoting—but instead our equals just as much as we are theirs, capable not only of understanding feminism (and feminists), but of actively and rigorously engaging challenges to their socialization, too.” – http://shakespearessister.blogspot.com/2011/05/whoooooooooops_06.html

        • mkKitty

          I have mixed feelings about your post. My response to your first paragraph is “absolutely”, I think it’s essential to feminism (and to humanism) that you be allowed to do what you want to do with your life (home, kids, career, film noir, whatever) without judgement from me or anyone that it makes you less of this or less of that. Feminism is marked by waves of differing focus and just like any movement not everyone has the same idea of what it means – there’s also a LOT of misinformation and stereotyping out there about what feminism is and the goals of feminism. So I don’t think your first paragraph is at odds with my idea of feminism at all. In fact, think it’s quintessential feminism.

          However, you totally lose me in the second paragraph. Firstly, I disagree in typifying an entire gender. People have an inherent need to feel useful, needed, depended on and respected – or rather *some* people. Not ALL men have that inherent need and some women also do. But I don’t think that the answer for the future is for women to bend over backwards to make men feel better about themselves so that we can all get along. I think all people, regardless of gender, should be aware of the feelings of those around them and should aim to improve the quality of life for the people that they love. I also feel that we should expect men to take responsibility for their roles in a changing society.

          If men are hurt by the advancement of women in the workplace – it has nothing to do with Women (who have an inherent right to pursue their own happiness). It’s because they were raised in a society that taught them that a Man is the provider. This restrictive view of people wherein a man must define himself in a very narrow and particular way in order to be considered a worthwhile person is the root of the problem. This is the double edge of the blade.
          We would all benefit in a world bereft of such gender essentialism.

          Here’s a great paragraph from a great article: “Implicit in feminism/womanism is not only the belief, but the expectation, that men are not brutish nor infantile—nor stupid, useless, inept, emotionally stunted, or any other negative stereotype feminists have been accused of promoting—but instead our equals just as much as we are theirs, capable not only of understanding feminism (and feminists), but of actively and rigorously engaging challenges to their socialization, too.” – http://shakespearessister.blogspot.com/2011/05/whoooooooooops_06.html

      • Schmidt Katrina

        Obviously, I am all for women being able to work and be treated (and paid) equally in the work force, if that is what they choose to do. It is what I am choosing to do right now, and it makes me very happy. However, I know that down the road, taking time off from work to raise a family and invest in my kids is also something I’d like to chose to do, and THAT is what women’s equality should be all about! We should not be penalized for that choice. Mothers who stay home and raise their kids and help instill them with morals, values, skills, and emotional security are JUST as necessary to the future of our nation as CEOs and women’s presence in the workforce. THAT is true equality. Being able to make that choice without being penalized.

        That said, men have an inherent need to feel useful, needed, depended on, and respected. When they don’t feel that way, a generation of “boys” and “slackers” is exactly what we’ll get. You can see it already. As women, is that REALLY what we want? We have WAAAY more power over men than we realize. We can make them or break them by the way we TREAT them. Just like they can do for us. And that is what we need to remember as we move forward into the future. Women need equality yes. But Men also still need to feel relevant. So let’s find a way to strike that balance, rather than pit our genders against each other all the time. That is just counter-intuitive and destructive.

      • Steven Luo

        Go back to the 1800s.

    • Julieprettyman

      Is this really what we want? Wimpy men and domineering women running our nation? Men were not created to stay at home and nurture the kids, women were. That is one of the lies the feminist movement has tried to get us to believe. It is just that-LIES! Our society is going down the tubes, because of the lack of moms in the home nurturing and loving their kids. All the while allowing daycare providers and/ or dads to be the one to raise them…Really? And we say this is what is best for our society. All women care to satisfy is themselves. We have a self-centered society, who looks out for only what they want and not in the interest of anyone but themselves. How educated is that? It is so short-sided! They get what they want initially, but in the end, it will lead to our demise!

    • Julieprettyman

      Is this really what we want? Wimpy men and domineering women running our nation? Men were not created to stay at home and nurture the kids, women were. That is one of the lies the feminist movement has tried to get us to believe. It is just that-LIES! Our society is going down the tubes, because of the lack of moms in the home nurturing and loving their kids. All the while allowing daycare providers and/ or dads to be the one to raise them…Really? And we say this is what is best for our society. All women care to satisfy is themselves. We have a self-centered society, who looks out for only what they want and not in the interest of anyone but themselves. How educated is that? It is so short-sided! They get what they want initially, but in the end, it will lead to our demise!

    • Julieprettyman

      Is this really what we want? Wimpy men and domineering women running our nation? Men were not created to stay at home and nurture the kids, women were. That is one of the lies the feminist movement has tried to get us to believe. It is just that-LIES! Our society is going down the tubes, because of the lack of moms in the home nurturing and loving their kids. All the while allowing daycare providers and/ or dads to be the one to raise them…Really? And we say this is what is best for our society. All women care to satisfy is themselves. We have a self-centered society, who looks out for only what they want and not in the interest of anyone but themselves. How educated is that? It is so short-sided! They get what they want initially, but in the end, it will lead to our demise!

  • mirrorghost

    yeeeah, MEN are turning into “seth rogen-ites” and it’s WOMEN’s fault? sexism right there!

    • mirrorghost

      not ALL men of course, but i guess the men who write articles like the one linked here…

      • Rachel

        Just a note: The Wall Street Journal essay linked in the above post was written by a woman.

        • mkKitty

          Also a note: Women are just as capable of sexist behavior and misogynist reasoning. It’s a social problem.

        • mkKitty

          Also a note: Women are just as capable of sexist behavior and misogynist reasoning. It’s a social problem.

        • mkKitty

          Also a note: Women are just as capable of sexist behavior and misogynist reasoning. It’s a social problem.

        • mkKitty

          Also a note: Women are just as capable of sexist behavior and misogynist reasoning. It’s a social problem.

      • Rachel

        Just a note: The Wall Street Journal essay linked in the above post was written by a woman.

    • mirrorghost

      not ALL men of course, but i guess the men who write articles like the one linked here…

  • mirrorghost

    yeeeah, MEN are turning into “seth rogen-ites” and it’s WOMEN’s fault? sexism right there!

  • Meekie

    I have a lot of mixed feelings about this article. Especially the part about women being responsible for men behaving like boys. The majority of the women in my family are uneducated single parents. My mom is a truck driver. My auntie is a teaching-assistant for special needs kids. Who is my dad and what is he up to?… Who cares! He sure doesn’t. And I will never blame that on my mom. Is there any responsibility out there that doesn’t get unfairly and unevenly dumped in a woman’s lap? If you get pregnant, its your fault. If you get raped, its your fault. If your boyfriend/husband suffers from prolonged adolescence, its your fault… are men ‘starting’ to behave like boys… or have they always had the option? My family is full of hardworking women and no positive male role models… whose fault is it that I don’t feel like I need one? Haven’t I watched my mother get by without one for my whole life? Closing the gender gap will require the sharing of responsibilities that no one wants. Who is willing to stop behaving like the children they’ve abandoned and share?

    • Nadia

      @6185c92ddbdec61b9e251cf825fa257e:disqus : Your comment is such an inspiration me. What I read here is that you are not hiding your past, or being a victim about it, rather you are actually proud and strong for it. You go girl!

    • Nadia

      @6185c92ddbdec61b9e251cf825fa257e:disqus : Your comment is such an inspiration me. What I read here is that you are not hiding your past, or being a victim about it, rather you are actually proud and strong for it. You go girl!

    • Nadia

      @6185c92ddbdec61b9e251cf825fa257e:disqus : Your comment is such an inspiration me. What I read here is that you are not hiding your past, or being a victim about it, rather you are actually proud and strong for it. You go girl!

    • Nadia

      @6185c92ddbdec61b9e251cf825fa257e:disqus : Your comment is such an inspiration me. What I read here is that you are not hiding your past, or being a victim about it, rather you are actually proud and strong for it. You go girl!

  • Meekie

    I have a lot of mixed feelings about this article. Especially the part about women being responsible for men behaving like boys. The majority of the women in my family are uneducated single parents. My mom is a truck driver. My auntie is a teaching-assistant for special needs kids. Who is my dad and what is he up to?… Who cares! He sure doesn’t. And I will never blame that on my mom. Is there any responsibility out there that doesn’t get unfairly and unevenly dumped in a woman’s lap? If you get pregnant, its your fault. If you get raped, its your fault. If your boyfriend/husband suffers from prolonged adolescence, its your fault… are men ‘starting’ to behave like boys… or have they always had the option? My family is full of hardworking women and no positive male role models… whose fault is it that I don’t feel like I need one? Haven’t I watched my mother get by without one for my whole life? Closing the gender gap will require the sharing of responsibilities that no one wants. Who is willing to stop behaving like the children they’ve abandoned and share?

  • http://www.clevercoquettes.com CleverCoquettes

    Both genders are responsible for making everyone comfortable both in the workplace, and at home. When the “mommies” don’t play with the “stay at home daddies” at the baby gym class, they reinforce that he doesn’t belong there, and that his wife should be there instead. There is overt and incessant discrimination against women in the workplace, as we know, that everyone is responsible for dispelling.
    Any men who are not progressive enough to handle a high-achieving woman doesn’t deserve her.

  • http://www.clevercoquettes.com CleverCoquettes

    Both genders are responsible for making everyone comfortable both in the workplace, and at home. When the “mommies” don’t play with the “stay at home daddies” at the baby gym class, they reinforce that he doesn’t belong there, and that his wife should be there instead. There is overt and incessant discrimination against women in the workplace, as we know, that everyone is responsible for dispelling.
    Any men who are not progressive enough to handle a high-achieving woman doesn’t deserve her.

  • NikkiG

    I wonder, are we really closing the gender gap when it comes to pay? Or could it be that businesses are slowing the increase men’s wages and letting women’s wages catch up thus creating percieved equity (and adding to the business bank account)? Another thought is the difference in pay could also be linked the type of jobs women seek (teaching, nursing) vs. those that men typically obtain (executive, scientists, doctors, lawyers). I read not too long ago, while doing research for a class project, that living wages are much lower than they were back in the 50′s and 60′s when it was typical for women to be the primary household caregiver. Research indicates that a man of today with children and a non-working spouce is more likely to be unable to financially support his family on his own leading to an increase in families where both spouses have to work. The article, I wish I could remember the journal it was in, stated that the reason for this is because the living wage hasn’t seen appropriate increases in decades. Additionally, single mothers pay the greatest price in this entire situation.

    • NikkiG

      Sorry for the grammar, spelling errors. Guess I should have edited prior to posting. I can’t figure out how to delete and repost a cleaner version!

      • http://www.clevercoquettes.com CleverCoquettes

        Ours, too! Ouch. No judgment here ;)

      • http://www.clevercoquettes.com CleverCoquettes

        Ours, too! Ouch. No judgment here ;)

    • NikkiG

      Sorry for the grammar, spelling errors. Guess I should have edited prior to posting. I can’t figure out how to delete and repost a cleaner version!

  • NikkiG

    I wonder, are we really closing the gender gap when it comes to pay? Or could it be that businesses are slowing the increase men’s wages and letting women’s wages catch up thus creating percieved equity (and adding to the business bank account)? Another thought is the difference in pay could also be linked the type of jobs women seek (teaching, nursing) vs. those that men typically obtain (executive, scientists, doctors, lawyers). I read not too long ago, while doing research for a class project, that living wages are much lower than they were back in the 50′s and 60′s when it was typical for women to be the primary household caregiver. Research indicates that a man of today with children and a non-working spouce is more likely to be unable to financially support his family on his own leading to an increase in families where both spouses have to work. The article, I wish I could remember the journal it was in, stated that the reason for this is because the living wage hasn’t seen appropriate increases in decades. Additionally, single mothers pay the greatest price in this entire situation.

  • K_

    It seems like men are saying ‘If I can be better than women and THE provider, then I don’t want to do anything at all.” What happened to both men and women giving 110% and working together to be equals, while also complimenting eachother in their differences?? It can happen and does, but rarely. Parents need to instill the value of a strong work ethic in their children, regardless of who they’re ‘competing’ with/against and whether they ‘win’ or ‘lose’… while also redefining those terms.

  • K_

    It seems like men are saying ‘If I can be better than women and THE provider, then I don’t want to do anything at all.” What happened to both men and women giving 110% and working together to be equals, while also complimenting eachother in their differences?? It can happen and does, but rarely. Parents need to instill the value of a strong work ethic in their children, regardless of who they’re ‘competing’ with/against and whether they ‘win’ or ‘lose’… while also redefining those terms.

  • Briarrose32

    Women have been working to strengthen and operate from their masculine side and men have an equal duty to strengthen and work on and from their feminine side. We all must strive for wholeness either consciously or unconsciously. The world is going through quite the transformation currently and it will be interesting to see what’s on the other side of it. The battle of the sexes may be in full swing but it isn’t about who does what and gets what it is about learning to work together and accepting and embracing each others differences as well and continuing to develop different parts of ourselves (ie: diplomatic side) that can take us further on our journey.

  • Briarrose32

    Women have been working to strengthen and operate from their masculine side and men have an equal duty to strengthen and work on and from their feminine side. We all must strive for wholeness either consciously or unconsciously. The world is going through quite the transformation currently and it will be interesting to see what’s on the other side of it. The battle of the sexes may be in full swing but it isn’t about who does what and gets what it is about learning to work together and accepting and embracing each others differences as well and continuing to develop different parts of ourselves (ie: diplomatic side) that can take us further on our journey.

  • Briarrose32

    Women have been working to strengthen and operate from their masculine side and men have an equal duty to strengthen and work on and from their feminine side. We all must strive for wholeness either consciously or unconsciously. The world is going through quite the transformation currently and it will be interesting to see what’s on the other side of it. The battle of the sexes may be in full swing but it isn’t about who does what and gets what it is about learning to work together and accepting and embracing each others differences as well and continuing to develop different parts of ourselves (ie: diplomatic side) that can take us further on our journey.

  • Briarrose32

    Women have been working to strengthen and operate from their masculine side and men have an equal duty to strengthen and work on and from their feminine side. We all must strive for wholeness either consciously or unconsciously. The world is going through quite the transformation currently and it will be interesting to see what’s on the other side of it. The battle of the sexes may be in full swing but it isn’t about who does what and gets what it is about learning to work together and accepting and embracing each others differences as well and continuing to develop different parts of ourselves (ie: diplomatic side) that can take us further on our journey.

  • Briarrose32

    Women have been working to strengthen and operate from their masculine side and men have an equal duty to strengthen and work on and from their feminine side. We all must strive for wholeness either consciously or unconsciously. The world is going through quite the transformation currently and it will be interesting to see what’s on the other side of it. The battle of the sexes may be in full swing but it isn’t about who does what and gets what it is about learning to work together and accepting and embracing each others differences as well and continuing to develop different parts of ourselves (ie: diplomatic side) that can take us further on our journey.

  • http://www.smartmouthblog.com Nicole Longstreath

    Unfortunately, many of us learn this behavior from our mothers – just like the boys learn it from their fathers. Our mothers weren’t asking for raises, but it’s time we start, whether we have daughter watching or not.

  • http://www.smartmouthblog.com Nicole Longstreath

    Unfortunately, many of us learn this behavior from our mothers – just like the boys learn it from their fathers. Our mothers weren’t asking for raises, but it’s time we start, whether we have daughter watching or not.

  • http://www.smartmouthblog.com Nicole Longstreath

    Unfortunately, many of us learn this behavior from our mothers – just like the boys learn it from their fathers. Our mothers weren’t asking for raises, but it’s time we start, whether we have daughter watching or not.

  • http://www.smartmouthblog.com Nicole Longstreath

    Unfortunately, many of us learn this behavior from our mothers – just like the boys learn it from their fathers. Our mothers weren’t asking for raises, but it’s time we start, whether we have daughter watching or not.

  • Lady

    I think it’s disgusting that a woman would want to “close the gender gap”!! If you’re not proud to be a woman and act like one, then shame on you!!! A woman who wants to be like a man is despicable!! And yes, I am a woman!

  • Lady

    I think it’s disgusting that a woman would want to “close the gender gap”!! If you’re not proud to be a woman and act like one, then shame on you!!! A woman who wants to be like a man is despicable!! And yes, I am a woman!

    • mkKitty

      Is it pride to work the same job as a man, with the same qualifications and results as he at 75% of the pay?
      It’s not about “women being like men”. In fact the whole idea of “how a man is” and “how a woman is” is made up – imaginary. It’s a cultural artifact of how we’ve been taught think a man should be or a woman should be that we teach our children who emulate it and pass on. We ostracize those that don’t follow it rather than accepting them as proof that it’s not really how a man is or how a woman is. People come in all combinations of aspirations and qualities despite and including their gender.
      I work in a male-dominated field and play a male-dominated sport – and doing those things doesn’t make me any less of a woman.
      Restricting opportunities to anyone based strictly on their gender is what’s despicable here.

    • mkKitty

      Is it pride to work the same job as a man, with the same qualifications and results as he at 75% of the pay?
      It’s not about “women being like men”. In fact the whole idea of “how a man is” and “how a woman is” is made up – imaginary. It’s a cultural artifact of how we’ve been taught think a man should be or a woman should be that we teach our children who emulate it and pass on. We ostracize those that don’t follow it rather than accepting them as proof that it’s not really how a man is or how a woman is. People come in all combinations of aspirations and qualities despite and including their gender.
      I work in a male-dominated field and play a male-dominated sport – and doing those things doesn’t make me any less of a woman.
      Restricting opportunities to anyone based strictly on their gender is what’s despicable here.

    • mkKitty

      Is it pride to work the same job as a man, with the same qualifications and results as he at 75% of the pay?
      It’s not about “women being like men”. In fact the whole idea of “how a man is” and “how a woman is” is made up – imaginary. It’s a cultural artifact of how we’ve been taught think a man should be or a woman should be that we teach our children who emulate it and pass on. We ostracize those that don’t follow it rather than accepting them as proof that it’s not really how a man is or how a woman is. People come in all combinations of aspirations and qualities despite and including their gender.
      I work in a male-dominated field and play a male-dominated sport – and doing those things doesn’t make me any less of a woman.
      Restricting opportunities to anyone based strictly on their gender is what’s despicable here.

    • mkKitty

      Is it pride to work the same job as a man, with the same qualifications and results as he at 75% of the pay?
      It’s not about “women being like men”. In fact the whole idea of “how a man is” and “how a woman is” is made up – imaginary. It’s a cultural artifact of how we’ve been taught think a man should be or a woman should be that we teach our children who emulate it and pass on. We ostracize those that don’t follow it rather than accepting them as proof that it’s not really how a man is or how a woman is. People come in all combinations of aspirations and qualities despite and including their gender.
      I work in a male-dominated field and play a male-dominated sport – and doing those things doesn’t make me any less of a woman.
      Restricting opportunities to anyone based strictly on their gender is what’s despicable here.

  • Lady

    I think it’s disgusting that a woman would want to “close the gender gap”!! If you’re not proud to be a woman and act like one, then shame on you!!! A woman who wants to be like a man is despicable!! And yes, I am a woman!

  • Lady

    I think it’s disgusting that a woman would want to “close the gender gap”!! If you’re not proud to be a woman and act like one, then shame on you!!! A woman who wants to be like a man is despicable!! And yes, I am a woman!