Why Are Young People So Offensive In The Workplace?

Libby Kane
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The millennials are under fire. And it’s the same story: Detractors insist that kids in their early twenties operate under a constant delusion of self-importance, and are consequently ignorant when it comes to etiquette and courtesy.

Etiquette Schools Are Thriving

Businessweek is less interested in the interns and more interested in those serving as their saviors. This year, etiquette schools in cities along the East Coast have reported an increase in enrollment for their classes, and that a good number of the new students are considerably younger than the average 50-year-old enthusiast. As they say, “It’s a great time to be a professional etiquette coach.”

Equal Opportunity Doesn’t Create Equals

Etiquette instructors continue with the same assertion: Young people are out of line. From Businessweek:

While plenty of millennials blame their unemployment on the recession, some business leaders insist that it’s as much their fault as the job market’s. “They’ve grown up with this Web 2.0 mentality that there’s complete equality in the world,” says Patricia L. Bower, clinical associate professor of management communication at New York University’s Stern School of Business. “They think, ‘If everyone has access to the same information, then we’re all equal, so I know as much as you do even though I’m 20 and you’re 55.’

Changing Times Leave Young People Adrift.

We’re on board with the idea of professionalism and self-awareness, but we would also like to point out that these kids are navigating an unprecedented work culture. Entire companies wear jeans to the office. Supervisors communicate via text. Everyone is attached to a cell phone. Facebook is considered a networking tool rather than a homework deterrent. In many places, business culture has changed so drastically in the last ten years that it’s created a divide between those who remember a different mentality and those who don’t realize it existed. While millennials may sometimes be at fault, we’re also trying desperately to figure out our role.

So, etiquette instructors (and employers): Don’t marvel at our ignorance. Either accept that codes of professional conduct are quickly changing in the internet age, or enlighten us about your expectations instead.

Editor’s Note: This article has been amended after outcry from our commenters. We, being “millennials” (does anyone actually use that word?) ourselves, never meant to assert on behalf of LearnVest that our generation is more than caught in the crossfire of a changing business culture.

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  • Anonymous

    This is bullshit. Why does everyone always harp on how twenty somethings suck. I thought that New York Times piece was bad enough, but WTH?

    • Annes

      Agreed. First of all the name millenials is stupid. No one my age uses that. Also, we are not offensive. WE are not anything. I work at my job and work hard at it. Etiquette shcool is ridiculous. I’m not going to that and I can’t imagine anyone I know going to that. If I can’t fit in at a company it’s not the right company for me.

      • Glitterspark37

        I think this is the attitude that this article was exactly referencing! I am in my 20′s and I find the thinking “well if you have a problem with me, it’s YOUR problem, because there can’t possibly be anything wrong with me!” just naive and close-minded. I’m not perfect, and neither is anyone else. I took an etiquette class twice in college and am so glad I did. There is always room for improvement, and there is always more to learn in life. To absolutely refuse to improve upon yourself and put the blame on others for not tolerating it is absurd. Additionally, you may have had the privilege to say thus far that you will just not work for a company that doesn’t tolerate a lack of maturity like that, but there are many people, and perhaps it is still in your future, that can’t be choosy about where they are employed – there’s 10% official unemployment right now (meaning, it’s probably closer to 20% because they don’t count everyone) and beggars can’t be choosers. I hope you never have to work for a place you don’t like – but most of us do. Reality check, please.

  • Anonymous

    Readers, do you think this generation needs this or is this a ridiculous premise?nCaroline WaxlernLearnVest’s Chief Content and Community Officer

  • Guest

    Hahah Apparently they do need it! Did anyone check out the Gawker story on Columbia kids who don’t wash? Gross. They clearly need it.nhttp://gawker.com/5666747/columbia-business-school-students-must-be-reminded-to-wash-themselves?skyline=true&s=i

  • Angelgirl007aa

    Does the media need to continue beating up on Gen Y? It’s ridiculous. If gen y is as selfish and as self-absorbed as everyone keeps claiming they are then fingers need to be pointed at previous generations. They are the ones that raised them. It seems that every generation always has to point at the current generations weak spots. Gen Y has more choices and have more liberties than any other generation but if they are so bad why don’t we start teaching them and leading by example instead of bad mouthing them.

    • Guest

      This generational fight seems so tired. Yawn.

    • Anonymous

      Angel girl, great point! nCheers,nCaroline WaxlernLearnVest’s Chief Content and Community Officer

  • Anonymous

    Not gonna lie — I always wanted to go to etiquette school. There is one in Boston for much younger kids that I always dreamed about.

  • Anonymous

    Not gonna lie — I always wanted to go to etiquette school. There is one in Boston for much younger kids that I always dreamed about.

  • MillenialPower

    I am offended by this article. I appreciate trying to put a positive twist on us “self-important” 20 and 30 somethings but enough already! And this coming from someone writing for a website that is trying to financially empower that same age group? Seriously? Know your audience. If a millenial is on this website I’m going to make an educated guess that they are more self aware and more mature than the subject of this article. Common courtesy has nothing to do with age. If people in our age group are rude that’s just because they’re rude. It does not speak to our entire generation and I am offended by that awful generalization. How about highlighting the benefits that millenials are making to corporations? Older professionals feel threatened by our fluidity and confidence with new technologies and, not that that makes us better at their jobs, but we have something to offer that many of them don’t so they attack our “self-importance” and “ignorance” of courtesy. I’m sorry but that is simply not the case and I don’t think learnvest is the appropriate place for this article.

    • http://twitter.com/amkade Allison Kade

      Hi MillenialPower,nnThanks for weighing in on this debate! I’d like to note that we did tweak the nature of this article post-publication and included an editorial note. We’re really grateful to all of the readers who pointed out the seeming bias in this piece, especially because we never intended to imply that millennials have got it all wrong. Instead, we’d like to spark debate, bring this issue to light, and get other readers’ opinions on how the changing face of the workplace has impacted and will continue to impact young people entering the job force.nnThanks again for weighing in,nAllison

  • Not Impressed

    When is it EVER okay to judge an entire generation (or culture, people, religion, etc… you get the point) on a handful of outliers? nnAs a 20-something, I find this post to be deeply foolish and offensive. Thank you for making it easier for me to discontinue reading your daily digests and posts.

    • http://twitter.com/amkade Allison Kade

      Hi Not Impressed,nnThanks for sharing your opinion. As much as we made some edits to the piece and included a note at the bottom attempting to clarify, I see your point. At the very least, please know that what we were going for, at least, was to bring this BusinessWeek article to light and to spark debate about it. The question we wanted to ask was: Is BusinessWeek (and, potentially, society as a whole) unfairly judging a whole generation, or is there a common emerging trend? Obviously not all 20-somethings are the same (hell, I’m one) but what we were wondering is whether more and more are taking different approaches to the way they perceive jobs fitting in with their lives rather than vice versa. nnFor better or for worse, changing trends are changing trends. Of course, we can’t definitively state that such an amorphous thing has changed, but that’s why we’re so grateful to commenters like you who help further the debate.nnBest,nAllison

  • Not Impressed

    When is it EVER okay to judge an entire generation (or culture, people, religion, etc… you get the point) on a handful of outliers? nnAs a 20-something, I find this post to be deeply foolish and offensive. Thank you for making it easier for me to discontinue reading your daily digests and posts.

  • Not Impressed

    When is it EVER okay to judge an entire generation (or culture, people, religion, etc… you get the point) on a handful of outliers? nnAs a 20-something, I find this post to be deeply foolish and offensive. Thank you for making it easier for me to discontinue reading your daily digests and posts.

  • coop

    These are our children we are talking about. Suggestions on what we might have done differently when raising them ? Hmm…

  • http://www.facebook.com/AshleyVictoriaBurton Ashley Burton

    I see their point, but no one has every taught us how to be apart of the working culture and what to look for. None of my classes taught me that, and I have so little experience in the work place other than the many jobs I hold. Everyone is so different and have their own thing going on so its hard to know where to turn. How can I better prepare myself for that transition from the classroom to the workforce if I’ve never done it in a way.

  • Allison

    Although I get tired of hearing 20-somethings slammed, and tend to find these articles full of grossly inaccurate and vague allegations, it can be interesting to try to find common trends that relate to cultural aspects of our upbringing. That said, one thing I get tired of hearing is 20-somethings referred to as kids–as in the above article which states that “these kids are navigating an unprecedented work culture”. This is an aspect that was touched upon in the NYT article too–are we kids, adults, or somewhere in between? We’re definitely not kids, and I wasn’t convinced that we’re in a whole new life phase that withstands the test of universality, which means we are adults. I personally consider myself an adult and a professional, and do my best to conduct myself professionally according to the standards of whatever organization I am working with at the time. I would judge poorly anyone who did otherwise, regardless of their age. I think our generation may be getting blamed for a much larger, cultural shift in etiquette norms that is being confronted very rapidly with a new way of communicating, accessing information, and making use of it–and the subsequent upheaval of orgs, jobs and workers whose order depends upon it.

    • http://twitter.com/amkade Allison Kade

      Hi Allison,nnGreat points! Thanks for weighing in. For my part, I’m kind of on the fence. I think that some of these shifts have more to do with changing social mores than with impudence from young people. After all, they’re not breaking “etiquette” if they wear jeans to an office that has a casual dress code, etc. That said, I’ve seen a really big span of young people graduating college during the recession years in terms of their ability and willingness to conform a little in order to land and succeed in a job. On one hand, you have sentiments like those from Annes above in which people are more willing to move back home with their parents than take a job that isn’t perfect or wants them to change in some way. Then, then on the other, you have people jumping at jobs that they’re way overqualified for simply because they need to work. I’m interested to see how things pan out in the next few years…nnDid you see the news blip about a guy who was fired for wearing a tie with sports team themed stuff on it? What do you (and everyone) think of that? Unprofessional (imagine a lawyer going to court with quarterbacks on his tie), or quashing his individuality?nnBy the way, nice name. ;-) nnBest,nAllison Kade